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Can you get chain guards that go around the rear sprocket? I hate the fact that every time I clean my bike, re-lube the chain, it just flies off all over the back wheel. I'm using a good quality chain lube, and leaving it for ages to soak in (overnight usually) yet it still flings off all over the wheel & lower section of the rear seat.
I might just have to get my wheels powdercoated black to hide it!
You could use a wax , you may be using too much lube or you may have to clean your bike more often :P
What are you using? Maybe try something different. Wurth Dry Chain Lube is very good - no fling at all and dirt doesn't stick to it.
More often? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by smellygerm
It gets cleaned twice a week! The stuff I use is a silkolene chain lube, but I might try a dry wax if that works better.
Does it spray on or get rubbed in (the wax, not the fake tan! ;D)
I used to use (many years ago) the wax type lube, was rubish, flicks everywhere...
I use Wurth dry chain lube, applied after a ride when the chain is warm, works a treat, not lube flicking everywhere anymore and the chain stays clean
Just can't please some people! ::)
Bring back the days when you had to remove the chain and immerse it in a tub of hot molten lube, then hang it up to drip dry! :o
There is always the shaft drive option, or drive belt? :)
I made an extension for my CBR4 after finding the Scottoiler flung oil all over the left-handside of the tyre when you went silly-speeds lol
Will see if I can get a pic later...
BUELL RULE!!!!!!!! ;) ;D ;D ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Blackandchrome
Best thing to do is to lube the chain at the end of a ride, then leave it overnight to soak in.
More often? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Squashed_Fly
It gets cleaned twice a week! The stuff I use is a silkolene chain lube, but I might try a dry wax if that works better.
Does it spray on or get rubbed in (the wax, not the fake tan! ;D)[/quote]
It's been sunny lately ;D ;D
Orange sunrays :D
I am currently battling with my scottoiler feed tube position and delivery rate. I was getting oil on my rims then it was being eased onto the tyre. Before I had my scotty, I had same problem of oil flying onto rims but I just stopped caring about it. It can be cleaned off anytime. I am sure it does no long term damage.
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Amen to that :-* :-* :-* :-*
I have a scotoiler and it works well for me :)
I used to have all sorts of prob's with the silkolene range including their Titainium chain wax (and that was white :o )
One shaftie and one fitted with scottoiler, get the flow rate right and only the chain gets lubed
I recently used a can of Wurth dry lube - sure it doesn't fling off, largely because there's nothing there! Apply after a ride, park the bike overnight, ride thirty miles the next day and the chain is bone dry - I know it says it's dry lube, but there's nothing left on it! The chain rollers are dry, shiny and clean, because there is no lubricant left on them - try scratching a roller with your nail - nada!Quote:
Originally Posted by jpssantos
It's nice that there's very little to clean off the rear wheel, but I'd rather do that than have nothing on the chain to lubricate it, cleaning is cheaper than a new chain and sprockets. The best lube I've ever used is PJ1 in the blue and yellow can, must hunt some more down....
SF - look at a C90 or an original CG125 if you're thinking about chain enclosure - sexy! ;)
Or a MZ.... communisms finest!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty
Ah yes, a C90. Hmmm, might chop the ninja in for one of those! ;D
Was hoping there might be a nice alloy one on the market that doesn't look too naff, but I'm guessing not. Will stock up on the white spirit then for cleaning the wheels every time it's lubed...
Scotty... maybe you are not applying enough? :)
Here you go:
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Cut and trimmed the last bit off a '53 plate GS500 chainguard, one drilled hole & bolt later and no more oil over my back tyre... had turned the oiler down as far as I dare - I think the main problem being Scottoil can deal with commuting speeds but not "brisk" commuting speeds & it had flicked all over the side & tread of my tyre??!
Have now removed & sold said oiler, am now using the oiler topup bottle to drizzle a little oil onto the chain when I get home after a ride (the chain, links & rings will still be hot & the oil will find it MUCH easier to penetrate the above than it will a cold chain. ;)
Interesting you say that. I found exactly same problem when I had a brisk ride to Bristol on the M4. The side of my tyre was oiled. Though it was a combination of very hot day, and high speed and duration of ride that led to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by 470four
So you sold your oiler, as you weren't satisfied it worked well? I hope its just a matter of remembering to turn the flow rate down when you know you are about to go on a quick, long ride.
Interesting you say that. I found exactly same problem when I had a brisk ride to Bristol on the M4. The side of my tyre was oiled. Though it was a combination of very hot day, and high speed and duration of ride that led to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry87
So you sold your oiler, as you weren't satisfied it worked well? I hope its just a matter of remembering to turn the flow rate down when you know you are about to go on a quick, long ride.[/quote]
It worked well, too well! Was trying to find the ideal compromise position between the chain being oiled sufficiently and it not getting enough & drying out?
All bike & chain manufacturers recommend using engine oil or similar to lube your chain, then only problem with this is that
A) its bladdy messy getting it on there, &
B) it doesnt STAY on there for long...
I have one of the Tururo oilers on my 400/4 for longer rides (bike doesnt go that quick to worry about extreme slingage, plus its handy to always have a little bottle of chain lube ready to go) but now still manually oil both my chain's, I find this gives greater control over the amount of oil being applied. Leave it to soak in overnight then a quick light wipe down with a rag before you set off ensures no mess over your wheel & tyre etc. :)
I agree that the main problem with the dry lube is being able to tell if it's worn off yet, but it really is doing good even if you can't see it. The proof is in the chain's longevity—it's all I ever used on the Ninja 250's new chain which still looked perfect and had needed no adjustments after nearly 10,000 miles, including bad weather and salt through the winter. OK, maybe that's not long enough to be sure, but a change of bike means I can't complete that experiment now. :)
I was thinking of getting a Scotoiler for the CBR, but after Wolverine's recent experience I'm not so sure.
I am still waiting for the scottoiler to save me 9 chains.
Was it that expensive? :o Think I'll stick to Würth's!Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry87
lol no, it was same cost as 1 chain/sprocket kit. The people at scottoiler claim it can last up to 9x longer than conventional oiling of chains
I loved the scottoiler on my old z. I threw it about a lot / plenty of spirited riding and it never missed a beat or pissed lube anywhere but where it was supposed to go. According to scottoiler most problems arise from incorrect fitting and people not placing the bottom plastic bit correctly (or replacing it when worn or lost).
A Scottoiler makes no difference to chain life, if you've lubed and looked after your chain in the normal manner.
With conventional chain lube, it needs to be used little and often on a warm dry chain. Most folks put way too much on in one go, hence the fling-off. Lubing everyday with just a five second squirt, is enough.
Any fling-off on the back wheel, I remove with GT85. Found in push bike shops, and generally cheaper than WD40.
:)
Agree entirely that a scottoiler doesn't do a better job than cleaning and lubing your chain every single day. What the scottoiler does is remove the need to (i) remember (ii) have the time to and (iii) actually bother doing that before every ride (or more accurately going out for 15 minutes to warm up the chain, then going back to 'lube up' and then heading out).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_Able
On the basis that I'd guess about 99% of bikers don't get around to doing that, it really ought to increase average chain life?
p.s. I don't have a scottoiler on the current bike. Fair to say I do miss it though!
Agree entirely that a scottoiler doesn't do a better job than cleaning and lubing your chain every single day. What the scottoiler does is remove the need to (i) remember (ii) have the time to and (iii) actually bother doing that before every ride (or more accurately going out for 15 minutes to warm up the chain, then going back to 'lube up' and then heading out).Quote:
Originally Posted by Chappers
On the basis that I'd guess about 99% of bikers don't get around to doing that, it really ought to increase average chain life?[/quote]
Lol seconded! It does grate me to see a nearnew bike with a bone-dry polished chain on it...
An unlubricated chain can in certain circumstances run dry, overheat and **SNAP** - going one of two ways...
- through the radiator of the car behind you :D
- through your engine crankcases into your gearbox etc... :o :'(
Get lubing. ;)