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Amazing to think that some people say we are the only planet with life on it ;D
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http://htwins.net/scale2/
Amazing to think that some people say we are the only planet with life on it ;D
If you look at ALL the factors needed on our planet alone to support life as we know it, it's amazing life exists at all. What amazes me, is some people are not amazed by the wonder of planet earth, and believe sky fairies created it all :(
That's great.
Interesting... I happen to believe in God, and personally, it find it a lot more difficult to believe that world around us happened as a 'coincidence of epic proportions'. In my own opinion, there must be some greater force at work - whatever that happens to be...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitch9128
I don't necessarily believe that God made the world in 7 exact days, or that every biblical word is to be taken literally, which is partly why I don't go to church anymore as so many christians are spoon fed stories and take them (excuse the pun) as gospel! They don't like it much when you question them, and point out any number of inconsistencies in the factual, and spiritual points raised in the bible!
Mind you, people dont like it much when I question anything full stop.... :P
SF, why do you belive in God?
Is it the science is too much to take in, and believing in God is easier?
What greater force can you need than evolution?
Not taking the piss or trying to start a bustup...shorty :) Just interested in why people feel the need to believe in something that has no basis in fact.
Evolution is only a theory... One that I happen to belive in I might add.
I actually think science and religion can exist side by side, but you have to take different parts in context of historical timelines and facts.
I have a number of reasons for believing in God, none of which I'm going into on here btw! I don't believe the bible word for word though - it was written by men after all, and the bible itself says that there are no perfect men.... If there were, we wouldn't need God!
I don't believe in god but when I got into a tank slapper at 90mph, on the wrong side of the road with a lorry coming towards me there was only 1 'person' I was asking for help and it wasn't Charles Darwin.
Common misconception, scientific theories are mostly proven facts. Evolution whilst a scientific theory, is also fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squashed_Fly
I wonder when god created dinosaurs, did he do that in his own image too?
Superman?Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_geoghegan
;D ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by dan_geoghegan
Superman?[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitch9128
No, SMELLYGERM 8-)
What about all of the other scientific 'facts' that have been disproven with the advancements of technology and historical knowledge? It was once a fact that man couldn't fly, or that the world was flat (not strictly true that one, only a small minority actually believed that). There are well researched scientists now that still believe Darwin to be incorrect, and have their own facts and theories as to why.
The simple answer is none of us know the truth or facts. We believe what we believe based on our own experiences and what we are told. Every scientific fact is the outcome of results that have shown that to be true. But in an infinate universe, an infinite number of outcomes is possible, which means eventually, if you had long enough, every fact could be disproved with evidence.
Religion and beliefs, whether in God or Darwin (or anything else) is a deeply personal thing and will be different for everone based on what they have experienced.
That's why I love the bit at the end of Miracle on 34th Street. Very few people when faced with inevitable death, don't pray for some kind of help or salvation... I read that in an article written by someone who used to be an executioner, who found it strange that these hard men had no faith, yet ultimately something inside them made them turn to God when they felt absolutely nothing else could save them...
This is quite an interesting thread... I'm curious to hear other peoples thoughts, so long as they aren't derogatory to anyone elses...
Superman?[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by smellygerm
No, SMELLYGERM 8-)[/quote]
Is that because you wear your pants on the outside? ;D
nah he just takes his clothes off in phoneboxes...
I didn't get round to watching that documentary....
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/m...ex-secrets/4od
Hasn't he been cautioned about that???? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dabz
See, i believe, believing in sky fairies is helping to stunt scientific advancement, stopping the poor in some countries living, it's killing people worldwide every day. It makes me angry seeing the hugely wealthy RC church pray for the starving millions in Africa, when if they only got off their arses, they could feed them. Prayer, easier than actually doing something, one day we will end religion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon...donbrain.shtml
I'm with you there. I can't stand religion - it's just a set of rules, designed to control and causes wars because man can't cope with faith and trusts unquestioningly.
Confusing faith, and religion, is something most people do. I have faith, but I'm not religious. I don't use what I believe as a big stick to make other people do what I want, or see things my way (I have the forum for that! ;) ;D )
Of course, there could be no such thing as God - perhaps it's all aliens?
or SmellyGerm in his underpats???? :D
U said not to be derogatory to my bellbreifs , just because People worship my colossus doesn't make me weirdQuote:
Originally Posted by Squashed_Fly
Ps. Please make donations payable to SMELLYGERM toligy. Condomxxxl :P
Man wasn't created by a god, unless you call visiting aliens god 8-)
I have faith in science SF
One of the greatest living British men today:-
http://www.iperceptive.com/authors/r...ns_quotes.html
Now he is a god :)
I am a believer in science too. However i dont have a problem if people find comfort in a little baby Jesus, or Krishna, or Allah or anything else.. I only have a problem when this is then used as a tool to control and brainwash, commit crimes against humanity etc etc etc
I suppose religion has been useful to give people something to believe in; and probably for a lot of people this gave them something to hold on to in times of despair, gave life a meaning etc and through our history religion has played an enormous part in controlling people but maybe also implementing certain rules...which were necessary for people to live in societies.. I guess people had to be fearful of some retribution in order to follow rules..
A political , social and economical tool.. a powerful one too when combined with lack of education and the mob factor.. I think i am quite spiritual but not a religious person, despite and maybe because of a religious upbringing !
Yes if i understand what sf meant, i agree private personal beliefs should be respected, but I always had a profound disgust and contempt for institutionalised religion, its hypocrisy. I suppose i am speaking mainly of Catholicism, of i have the best knowledge.
"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence."
My Religion? My Ninga!
My bible? - The workshop manual..
The path to righteousness? That country road baby!! :D
;D 8-) nice ! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry87
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Originally Posted by Harry87
Ninga? Strawberry blonde Kawasaki?
Scientific evidence outways God for me. Way too much fact about how life on earth has evolved. We're born, we live, we die end of.
My fail.
Urbandictionary: NINGA
1. The combination of the words Nigga and Ninja.
A Black Ninja.
4. Ninga
A big and hairy Dick. (??????)
You know what I meant ;D Anywaaaay.. Yeah the Universe, it is massive!! :D
A little girl once said:
"My mother always talked to me a lot about the sky. She liked to watch the clouds in the day, and the stars at night... especially the stars. We would play a game sometimes, a game called, what's beyond the sky. We would imagine darkness, or a blinding light, or something else that we didn't know how to name. But of course, that was just a game. There's nothing beyond the sky. The sky just is, and it goes on and on, and we'll play all of our games beneath it."
i feel quite "taken" by all this.. ;D :P
Just checked out the link. Laughed at Minecraft world ;D
Those stargazers sure have been busy!! Lots beyond the sky it would seem ;D
I always thought religion is all about who's got the best imaginary friend. :D
If there is some sort of all seeing supreme being up there, then why doesn't he / she show themselves... perform a few miracles, give us all unrefutable proof??
Until then, 'tis all twaddle to me. :)
I find that many many people need to have faith in something.......some in what they had 'drummed' into them whilst growing up..some, after some awful situations or incidents in their lives and some just get wrapped up into something without realising what it is until its too late.
I do not agree with the types of religion that need to convert those that are vulnerable or not in a mental state to be able to make informed choices.
I believe in what I believe in because I was able to make a choice. It helps me through all my crappy times and believe that all the crappy people out there do have good in them somewhere.
I would never push my 'faith' on others, not even my own children, because they will find their own way of coping with lifes trials and tribulations, I shall just support them and be there for them
I just feel for all those people born in countries that have to believe in what they are told just to be able to survive. The books they follow were generally written donkeys years ago and have been adapted to suit whoever was in power at the time (a bit like chinese whispers) over the years some bits get added and some bits get removed etc.
And finally ::) the way I look at it, you dont have to go to church or a certain special building or follow the words of some book to be classed as a 'good' person....your conscience should be able to tell you whether something you are doing is 'right' or 'wrong'.
I respect anothers choice, the same way I would expect them to respect mine
Keep the faith people hehe ;D
I blame the government ;) :P ;D ::)
So do i Ken http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9539...s_to_continue/ not only pointless, but no place for this rubbish in politics.
Seems fair.... Bl**dy tories! :D :PQuote:
Originally Posted by monday21
Amen to that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry87
I stopped believing in God Christmas day 1977 when my dad died. I was 13
If other people need to believe in something thats up to them
Well thats religion done.
How about politics now?
Ken has that covered up there ^^ :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevinb
Ken has that covered up there ^^ :D[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitch9128
Who's Ken then. Do I know him? Is he a nice chap? ;)