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It seems I can buy £15 toaster and get 12 month warranty, yet look to spend nearly £9000 on a BMW R1200 at Fowlers and get a 30 day warranty? Seems to say to me they don't have much confidence in what they are selling. Of course I can buy an extended warranty?
i was was expecting a minimum 12 month warranty or am I being naive?
If you buy an approved bike from a BMW dealer (if its outside of the standard 2 year warranty) it comes with a full 12 months warranty. If you buy from any other dealer you get what you're given or you can negotiate. How old is the bike? Extended warranties don't cover everything so do your research on the particular bike to look for any weak points.
At that money with no warranty or guarentee you'd be better off finding a private sale and saving a few thousand pounds I would think.
ditto. just as easy from ebay.
alternatively threaten that you will take your business else where failing that negotiate to include in the sale price.
this time of the year there are plenty of dealers who NEED to sell and will offer extras as an incentive
the other possibility, is pay on a credit card. you should get longer?
Rediculous ! Tell them to insert their 30 days up an exhaust pipe. Try Dick Lovett's (no connection other than hospitality for Santa Run).
Just bought a second hand Skoda Yeti from Turners, Erlestoke and they threw in an extended warranty running until May 2016!
I wouldn't buy from a dealer unless they provided a long warranty. It shows if they have faith in what they are selling you
30 days is a piss take, especially on a bike of that value. I could understand if it was a £900 part ex that they're trying to get shot of but not that sort of value. As others have said, I'd be tempted to look for a private sale and save some money - why pay a dealer's premium if you don't get anything for it? The whole reason they charge more is usually the warranty and the pre-sales checks etc
30 days seems utterly ridiculous! As others have said look private better to have zero days and save a wad of cash.
Bought a 52 plate 13k miles gsxr1000 from Crescent Honda in November and that came with a 3 month warranty without asking. I thought that was fair on a 12 year old, £3k bike, plenty long enough to ensure there is nothing wrong with the bike when it left the dealer.
30 days on a £9k bike is a piss take, I wouldn't even bother to try and haggle more if they can't be bothered to offer at least 3 months to start with on a bike of that value
The service in Fowlers has always been crappy.
If something did go awry in the 30 days they'd probably still try and weasel out of it.
Shop around and save a few pounds that you can then put into an aftermarket warranty.
Best I can say about Fowlers is they do a good breakfast...
Everything is negotiable - especially at this time of year.
Just get it in writing (I would ask for 12 months warranty at that price - as a minimum!!)
I'm sure i got 3months engine and gearbox warranty from Motorcycle Mania in Frome for a bike a lot less expensive than that, its a buyers market at this time of year, haggle ! :)
Its a lot of money for such a short warranty, especially considering the time of year, you probably wont get that many run outs to put any decent mileage on the bike, makes the 30 day seem negliabile.
Of course this is 'on top' of your statutory rights, which goes along the lines of anything breaks in first 6 months it is deemed to be there at the point of sale. I've had it twice with cars from dealers now, faults occur in first 6 months, they try to wriggle stating 30 day warranty, contact trading stds, they give you a template letter, you send it of recorded, dealer suddenly agrees to repairs. One car i got full refund minus £200 on at the 6 month point as fault just kept coming back. This is for any second hand vehicle from a dealer, you have 6 months implied warranty in law, and they know it.
Warranty not worth the paper they are written on, find out which manufacturer makes the most reliable Motorcycle, Car, etc, and go with that, that's what I have been doing for year's now and I found that too be the best warranty of all.
Dealers are for the convenience of the buyer, nothing they sell is guaranteed to be any better than anything on offer by anyone else, private or trader. If you carry out all the necessary due diligence you will find out as much about the bikes past as the dealer will ever tell you. Like they say,"buyer beware!" Fowlers have always displayed a certain lack of care or interest in my experience, they have built a strong business but everything is now on their terms take or leave it.
Yes Buyer Beware dealer's are not you friend's, they are sharks and you are food and when you come through the doors it's dinner time, and a warranty is designed to give you peace of mind but the small print says in your dreams sucker.
Buyer beware only applies to private sales, dealer purchases are covered by the sale of goods act http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/c...V0003-1011.txt
I know someone who had the runaround from Fowlers, they applied the SOGA, and Fowlers changed tack, most dealers do when they realise you know your rights.
You're right the law is the law, but those who govan us and those who pull their strings and don't kid yourself that us, have been dismantling the mechanism too get justice for us in the form of massive cuts too citizens advice, legal aid, trading standards the police, and proposals to curtail no win no fee legal practices, so if they say no and you can't afford to take them to court what do you do then.
True justice is the cornerstone of a democracy you lose that and you lose everything.
You don't need to take them to court, trading standards will, all you need to do is keep TS updated and they will advise of the way for you to escalate, and take proceedings if necessary, dealers get a black mark for that, and would rather avoid. TS haven't been cut back that far...yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Republic
Trading Standards, Dealers getting a black mark, yes at this time it's good too keep our sense of humour nice one, T'S haven't been cut back that far, but I thought that was the point too.