Tragic deaths

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Originally Posted by Swanny

[quote author=BMWGraeme link=1348082064/24#24 date=1348168928][quote author=Swanny link=1348082064/22#22 date=1348167048]I wouldn't have much faith in the police helping me even if they did have guns.

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Police refuse to save drowning man due to lack of training

30 July 2012

Police officers refused to get into the water to save a man drowning in a London canal because they had not had the right training, an inquest heard.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...g-7986969.html

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I don't know about the canals in London but the Kennet and Avon is only about 4' deep.


Anyway I'm not anti-police but I am anti-guns.
The less the better.

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I wouldn't have gone in to save a drugged up bozo intent on killing himself either. You're putting yourself at risk in doing so. 9pm on an evening they wouldn't have been able to see him once under the water anyway.

On the link, the last sentence from the coroner is:

“under the circumstances they did everything that was possible”.

There's always a second side to the story to balance the first.[/quote]
I hope that if I'm ever in the situation that I might be able to save another humans life I at least give it ago :)[/quote]

In normal circumstances I would agree but not when the person you're trying to help is more likely to kill you as well as himself. What does that achieve? Are you trained in making in-water rescue's? Most likely you will end up killing yourself and putting more people at risk trying to save you as well as the other person. If you want to learn how to do it properly I can put you in touch with someone ;)

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Originally Posted by Swanny

Number 3 ....they chose the job
Number 4 .....if they don't like it leave

No one forces them to be police officers
If they don't like being treated badly by drunks etc does that give them the right to beat them?

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OUT OF ORDER

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Originally Posted by BMWGraeme

In normal circumstances I would agree but not when the person you're trying to help is more likely to kill you as well as himself. What does that achieve? Are you trained in making in-water rescue's? Most likely you will end up killing yourself and putting more people at risk trying to save you as well as the other person. If you want to learn how to do it properly I can put you in touch with someone ;)

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Actually as a narrow boat skipper I am trained to rescue people from the canal :)

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Originally Posted by goz1960

[quote author=Swanny link=1348082064/15#15 date=1348162603]Number 3 ....they chose the job
Number 4 .....if they don't like it leave

No one forces them to be police officers
If they don't like being treated badly by drunks etc does that give them the right to beat them?

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OUT OF ORDER
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Really what makes you say that?? :-?

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Originally Posted by goz1960

[quote author=Swanny link=1348082064/15#15 date=1348162603]Number 3 ....they chose the job
Number 4 .....if they don't like it leave

No one forces them to be police officers
If they don't like being treated badly by drunks etc does that give them the right to beat them?

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OUT OF ORDER
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WTF how? By all means join in the debate, but what are you trying to do here? Stop it?

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Originally Posted by Swanny

[quote author=BMWGraeme link=1348082064/30#30 date=1348170688]
In normal circumstances I would agree but not when the person you're trying to help is more likely to kill you as well as himself. What does that achieve? Are you trained in making in-water rescue's? Most likely you will end up killing yourself and putting more people at risk trying to save you as well as the other person. If you want to learn how to do it properly I can put you in touch with someone ;)

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Actually as a narrow boat skipper I am trained to rescue people from the canal :)
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As I said, I can put you in touch with someone so you can learn how to do it properly... and safely. I've had to do it for real on several occasions - it ain't fun I can assure you. You're never too old to learn ;)

Are you mad? two young female police officers are murdered doing a job for us, and the next day you are condoning some one making comments like that. All I can say is its a sad world we live in then. lets hope you never need the police as you don't deserve the right to ask for there help

English?

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Originally Posted by BMWGraeme

As I said, I can put you in touch with someone so you can learn how to do it properly... and safely. I've had to do it for real on several occasions - it ain't fun I can assure you. You're never too old to learn ;)

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I hold boatmasters licence and was a skipper on the K&A Jubilee for few years when she was moored at Dundas.
Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Mitch9128

English?

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Might not be quite up to Shakespeare standards but I am totally disgusted as I tried to construct a reply this sort of thread after a national disaster like this it makes my blood boil.