I know! lol :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Col
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I know! lol :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Col
Well said KJ ;)
Unfortunately, "The lock em up and throw away the key" mentality just don't work. Our prisons are bursting at the seams.
and wouldn't be if those that have committed the most heinous of crimes were sent to their death!Quote:
Originally Posted by monday21
Parliament voted today against the 'Convention on Human' rights ruling to introduce voting for UK prisoners. This decision will inevitably lead to compensation claims against the government (taxpayer).
I saw a guy on Breakfast TV this morning, an ex-con turned Parole Officer and he was speaking from experience, both personal and from having worked with thousands of cons and he said it's a waste of time, they're not remotely political and couldn't give a stuff about voting, though if some of them hear that they can claim for it they'll be making a fuss... just have to go back over the electoral records for the past few elections I guess and see if any of the claimants actually bothered to turn up on voting day in the past.... ::)
The fact is that this issue has been a festering sore since 2005 and the previous government buried their collective heads in the sand in the hope that it would go away. That said, we are where we are now, and today’s vote in parliament was merely a token gesture of defiance and will not lead to new legislation relating to prisoner’s voting rights. It is clear to me that as a sovereign state we have reached a crossroads with a choice of three paths to follow.
Firstly, the UK government could continue to ignore the ‘Convention on Human’ Rights’ (COHR) ruling and payout millions to prisoners in future compensation claims.
Secondly, give up our membership of the Council of Europe and pull out of the convention (Off course we cannot pick and choose which rulings we adopt).
Thirdly, pass legislation to introduce some form of voting rights for prisoners in accordance with the COHR ruling.
IF WE MUST give prisoners the vote then make it those on short sentences, 12 months or less as this normally ends up at about 6 months or so on time off for good behaviour, about the same length of time served in afghanistan by our forces who even tho they may have a postal vote while on tour probably have more pressing things to worry about than a local vote.
Either that or limit the vote to local council by - elections and the like something that won't make the biggest of impacts on the country , there must be a way of appeasing the ECHR and stopping these people who have 'stayed from the line of righteous living' shall we say from suing the goverment and becoming an even bigger drain on this country !
No they're not. Not at all. There aren't enough rooms for them all, and some have to share, but if we gave them all a 6x4 cell with a blanket and a bucket, we would have plenty of room. Playstations, Xboxes???? Do me a favour.Quote:
Originally Posted by monday21
My next door neighbour is a prison officer. When they want a new tele, they just smash up the current one. Human rights dictates they must have a new one within 24 hours, better than the last. Tell me honestly, would enyone here be worried of going to prison? Aside from the obvious difficulties you would have when released, but I mean the time spent there. I wouldn't. 3 good meals a day, all the xbox live you want and the european government running around after you making sure you have what you want, including the right to vote.
This country is going down the pan fast.
If prison meant 22 hours a day in a cramped cell, no communication, 2 hours exercise a day and the bare basics for food, then I might not want to go in/back. I know it's very 'eastern' but at least out there people are frightened of the consequences of their actions.
This is what a full prison looks like:
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...10/thai276.jpg
This is a UK prison.....
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...7-_441131a.jpg
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Originally Posted by Nellybambam
100% :)[/quote]
Couldnt have put it better myself :)