I like the sound of the last option... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 470four
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I like the sound of the last option... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 470four
Thanks for all the kind advice guys. Will wait to see if the KIA dealer gets any joy from KIA UK.
Will though get a 2nd opinion from an independent before making any decision about a repair route.
As regards oil, I have regularly checked engine oil level between services and the car uses little oil and the oil is always very clean on the dip-stick.
Just thought I'd post what the outcome has been .....
.. took car to independent garage in Corsham. They had it for a few days and eventually after their three technicians had just listened to the noise and chatted about the unusual rattle, one of them recognised it as a v rare issue.
They asked me to come in on the 4th morning to collect the car as they'd fixed it !!!!
As it's an automatic transmission, what had happened was that two of the bolts holding the flexi plate to the auto transmission torque converter had come loose.
The proprietor of this garage said that they had, a couple of times over many years, seen a cracked flexi plate but never the actual retaining bolts coming loose.
Anyway, as it had been making this rattling sound for a while the loose bolts had elongated the holes into which they fixed the plate to the converter.
They therefore had to put new bolts in and somehow secured them using some loctite substance ...and the car sounds lovely now !!!
Cost; parts was just 3 new bolts @ £0.57 each + 2 hours labour + the VAT .... so a bill for only £157.
I have written to the Managing Director of the Chippenham Kia dealership telling him what I thought about the mis-diagnosis by his staff that could have cost someone £3,800 if they had just let them replace the engine.
I suggested they had a training issue, albeit that the problem was very rare and possibly something that none of their (young) technicians had ever come across.
I also sent Kia Motors UK a copy of that letter and suggested to them that they might like to notify all their dealarship workshops of this potential issue on Picanto automatic cars .. and that such a low down engine rattle does not mean a new engine !!!
If this had been, say an elderly person, why would they doubt that a Kia dealer could get the diagnosis so wrong and could have forked out a massive sum of money.
What a surprise, I have had no reply from the MD of the Kia dealership, despite a reminder letter I sent last week, not even the courtesy of an acknowledgement letter. >:(
.. and Kia UK, who would not have contributed if it had been an engine replacement. Well, another surprise, no reply from them either.. >:( >:(
I unfortunately bought a Citroen from this same Chippenham dealership last year (they sell Kia, Citroen, Peugeot and Seat vehicles) and paid an extra £199 to have 3 years servicing included.
Don't feel I want to take any car back to their workshops, even for the relatively straightforward servicing of a new car. :'(
..The end !!!!
Just goes to show DONT buy a kia, this isn't the first bad report ive heard with issues like this,
Also its always best to have 2 opinions, go to the kia dealer and demand to speak to the MD and ask him to his face why he hasn't even got the decency to reply to your letter.
Sounds like a good place to have a WB bike meet! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryan9T9
Yea 50 bikers showing up on his forecourt might get his attention :p
Kia are cheap - for a reason... I would personally neither recommend nor buy anything built in China, Korea or Wongtongfong for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan9T9
Im all for a WB gathering outside the MD's?? :D
Just finished Hunter S. Thompson's "Hells Angels" book, a number of motorcycles turing up outside anywhere always gets curtains twitching... 8-)
Why are you going to scrap the car???
if it still drives..just keep driving till the engine blows up..
My Defender 90 has a horrible noise from the gearbox, and its likely to be the output shaft bearing, or something worse.., I've rulled out the transfer box, that's fine
either case its a gearbox out job, which I really cant be bothered to do as its a pain doing it on my back on my drive, altough I could do it.... as sourcing a spare gearbox is not very expensive
but, I've just been driving it like that for about a year now... the way I see it is, its not doing damage to anything else and still works... so there's no point fixing it till it blows..
simples! ;D
Just keep driving.. if you dont have loss of power or anything, if its just the noise there.. keep driving.
sorry, didnt see the other post...
bit expensive for 3 bolts!!!
that deserves a pick axe through the bonnet off a car in the forecourt! :D :D
They are cheap, but they are good little cars. As said above, if you want to do sales rep mileage, then of course you would buy something more suitable.
Not everyone can aford to buy german manufacturing, or Japanese sometimes. There is a case for them, and of the cheaper manufacturers, Kia are one of the best, if not the best. Got quite a few mechanic friends back home who have all recommnded them as a lower budget car.
One bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch
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