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You wear a helmet on religious grounds then?[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitch9128
I was waiting for this to rear it's ugly head.
The burka has nothing to do with religion. It's worn though choice.
We bikers are forced to wear a helmet by law.
You wear a helmet on religious grounds then?[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_geoghegan
I was waiting for this to rear it's ugly head.
The burka has nothing to do with religion. It's worn though choice.
We bikers are forced to wear a helmet by law.
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I'm not advocating the wearing of it, some of these women are forced by their husbands. However rufty tufty bikers claiming prejudice upon being asked to remove your helmet is laughable, i've seen these women spat at in the street in London, i have yet to see anyone wearing a burka in Wiltshire!
You wear a helmet on religious grounds then?[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitch9128
I was waiting for this to rear it's ugly head.
The burka has nothing to do with religion. It's worn though choice.
We bikers are forced to wear a helmet by law.
[/quote]
I'm not advocating the wearing of it, some of these women are forced by their husbands. However rufty tufty bikers claiming prejudice upon being asked to remove your helmet is laughable, i've seen these women spat at in the street in London, i have yet to see anyone wearing a burka in Wiltshire![/quote]
So because someone else has got it worse we're not allowed to complain? Where does that agument stop? That's a slippery slope to go down.
Its not prejudice as such making bikers take our lids off at petrol stations but it is criminalising us without actually having done anything wrong.... like previous posts say some scrotes on scooters fuel and scoot but how often does someone on 5 to 12k of motorbike do the same?
It's an inconvenience at most, there is a valid reason behind it, and most pump jockey's wouln't know the difference between an Rsv4 and an Piaggio twist and go. I'm surprised at the protests, as in the 4 years in Wilts i've never been asked to remove my helmet.
That's easy to say when you know the difference. Most people wouldn't know how much a moped cost compared to a bike. (Edit: Mitch beat me to it!)
It's kind of funny that you put in your post "scrotes on scooters". That makes you just as guilty of being judgmental/prejudiced as the people that are being complained about!
Toally agree SF..... some of those 'scrotes on scoots' are some damn nice people just like the big hairy biker mob lol.......and they all have to start somewhere...in a couple of years they could well be riding along side any of us on a WB ride-out........there always have and always will be a minority that give the majority a bad name which isnt deserved no matter what they ride (bikers), who they support (i.e footie fans), or who they worship (religious groups) ;) ;) ;)
This isn't prejudice as such, just more stereotyping, but I do get really hacked off in garages & parts shops when the responses to questions that I've asked get directed to my OH! >:(
He hasn't got a clue when it comes to anything mechanical, yet I am trusted to fix multi-million pound aircraft on a daily basis! ;D
So the objections seem to be:
1 - inconvenience to the biker - sure it's inconvenient, but not nearly as inconvenient as being robbed and getting the sack because your boss finds out you let another biker fill up without him taking his helmet off for the CCTV. Again, taking helmets off to go into a bank or post office is similarly inconvenient, it just happens to be done less frequently and is more obvious, but the principle is the same.
2 - some women wearing burka's might not be asked to remove them - for that argument to work it has to be assumed here that women wearing burka's have been allowed to fill up at the same places bikers have been asked to remove their helmets. Even if that were generally the case, it is missing the point of why the request is made by some petrol stations - clearly they do not have a crime problem of burka clad women stealing their petrol!!
This isn't criminalising bikers unless we are saying that stores that restrict the number of unaccompanied children after school are criminalising all children. If people take money out of my pocket I would like to think I will take reasonable steps to make it more difficult for them to do it in future [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
I've never actually seen a woman wearing a burka filling up a car. In my boredom I googled burka car and the closest I got to was this
http://destexhe.blogs.com/blog2007/2...-sur-tlbr.html
I'm quite sure the second lady isn't wearing a burka :o :o My French is a little rusty, but I think even the 'micro-burka' was absent on September 4th :-*
Sorry, completely off-topic. Back to prejudices!!