My bike will do 106mph in first gear, so not really an issue ;D but a good point anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWGraeme
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My bike will do 106mph in first gear, so not really an issue ;D but a good point anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWGraeme
I'm sure in some of the RoSPA literature I've been reading (I have trouble sleeping ;D ), their advanced riders are not taught in terms of "right side of the road" versus "wrong side of the road".
If it's safe to do so, why wouldn't you venture into the offside lane for a better view of the road ahead?
The offside only becomes the wrong side if you come into conflict with oncoming traffic, and if you come into conflict with oncoming traffic does that not indicate that your overtake planning was pretty poor (or non-existent in some cases)?
Resident RoSPA tutors please feel free to correct me if I've misinterpreted this. :)
I was told to make good progress....!!! If you have to exceed the speed limit in order to get past a slower moving vehicle then "Do So" as long as you bring the speed now again when back in positoin on the correct side of the carriageway.
"Bike Safe" Told by the following officer & repeated on IAM test.
I agree with you Mark 100 per cent. An earlier contributor made the point about reasonable speed to overtake a vehicle travelling at 60mph. Off course, by the letter of the law an overtake should not be considered in such circumstances as the vehicle in front is travelling at the maximum legal speed limit. We are Bikers - Let’s get real hear – I would never condone breaking the national speed limit on a public forum, but most of us are riding 100 plus BHP motorcycles. If I wanted to get stuck out on the opposite side of the road during an overtake I’d buy a bubble-car or the like. In my view, overtaking at too slow a speed is a risky pastime.
This is an interesting debate. I think the general concensus is it's ok if it's not over the top. However, when I did my IAM about 12 years ago, I came to a situation where I had three cars, each seperated by a 50 metre gap, travelling at about 45mph. My choices were to overtake each vehicle individually, reassessing the opportunity each time (and possible losing the chance to pass all three). Or going for it, on a long straight, but going a considerable amount over the limit, but achieving my goal. As you can probably imagine, I went for it. The examiner heaped praise on me at the end of the test, so I guessed my decision to be the right one.
One more thing to add. I trained a local traffic cop, who was happy to tell me of how he pulled a guy for overtaking at 85mph (but slowing back to 60 after), just to tell him that if he told all his mates to overtake like that, he wouldn't pull them. Traffic cop was a local character well-known to this forum. The guy pulled happened to be one of my instructors (I didn't tell him that at the time)... :)
I was taught that it is ok to do so if it increases visability but don't do it to gain visability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scaredy_Cat
I was told on my speed awareness course that you're simply not allowed to exceed speed limits. EVER. :'(
No, seriously, while I agree with you (get it over and done with quickly yet safely) that's not what the others will say.
I was taught that it is ok to do so if it increases visability but don't do it to gain visability.[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_geoghegan
Eh? Increasing/gaining visability? You've lost me there, are they not the same thing?
I was taught that it is ok to do so if it increases visability but don't do it to gain visability.[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by Nooj
Eh? Increasing/gaining visability? You've lost me there, are they not the same thing?
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No.
If you can see the road ahead is clear and moving out more will increase your visability that is ok. It's not ok to venture into the offside lane to get initial visability. Like if you're right behind a lorry you can't see the road ahead. If you pull into the offside lane to gain visibilty you could hit oncoming traffic.
If you drop back you can see further ahead so going into the offside lane will increase your view and you can safely judge if an overtake is possible.
Sorry, I could've worded it better. :-[
Well I was taught on my DAS course that it was safer to overtake a vehicle travelling less than the NSL briskly. If that did mean venturing over the speed limit it was ok as long as you dropped back down to the limit on returning to the right side of the road.