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R.I.P Keith Blakelock.
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Originally Posted by Col
R.I.P Keith Blakelock.
paddy came round today, he went looting in argos...... said he has about 500 catalouges and 6 stubby pens going cheap ;)
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Originally Posted by Rossio
That Paddy must be doing ok for himself then.... I heard he smashed in his laptop screen trying to loot ebay as well ;D
I just heared that Scousers are refusing to travel to London on Saturday for the Spurs Vs Everton match due to fears that all the best stuff has already been stolen
;D ;D ;D
On a serious note , the lad who got shot was carrying a short barrelled weapon... The police have a split second to react, it's a case of 'is it real, is it a replica?' ' is it loaded? is there a round in the chamber?' 'is his safety off and will he use it' in this time the guy who is a potential threat to anyone near him could fire a shot and wound or kill anyone....
The police made a judgement call, there is no info to say how or in what way he was challenged and if the guy was a genuine threat , if the police rules of engagement are similar to that of the armed forces guarding their bases in UK , there will be no need to issue a challenge prior to opening fire , as in the time it takes to say 'POLICE STOP OR WE FIRE' the assailant could have 3 shots or more from a self loading weapon....
The Police Officers actions potentially saved the life of his comrades and of course his own.
It's sad that anyone loses a life , but as has been said before, you live by the sword.... you die by the sword!
Saw a bit of the commons debate last night..... I have to say it seems hypocritical to me for MP's to lecture and postulate about the morality of theft when that bunch claimed tens of thousands of pounds for duck houses, moats, televisions, etc.... and then blocked attempts by the police to investigate fully.
Then to compound the felony they allow the likes of vodaphone and other city tycoons to avoid millions in tax and go un-punished. They then have the nerve to stand there and rant about the full weight of the law being applied to the looters. I say this, the worse looter in this country are located in wesminster! And they will never feel the weight of the law!
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Originally Posted by Jon_W
I am not condoning the expenses scandal, the phone tapping, police corruption etc, however by-and-large politicians, journalists, [bent] coppers will have helped to bring some civility and wealth to this country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon_W
A load of lazy, work-shy drug-users who shun every attempt at becoming useful members of society and then riot, bring nothing and infact reduce the quality of life for all of us.
In fairness to politicians (god, i'm selling my soul), I am aware of none that set fire to a family business with a family asleep above.
In a non direct way, they probably have. The probs they've caused will have driven more than a few to torch their businesses for insurance, only to end up getting caught & jailed.
Their hands are by no means clean, however it is much easier to deal with a direct issue than an indirect one...
It's not the statements condemming the actions taking that I think are hypocracy. It's the false morality of these people. Low payed workers are facing a cut in living standards because of the deficit, but at the same time, the rich and Mp's can claim lavish expensise and avoid taxes legally. Prehaps I'm morally misguided, but is seems so wrong to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by pilninggas
I'll ask anyone. What does a Eton and Oxford educated minister know about poverty?? What does the same person know about avoiding tax??
Answers on a poastcard.
Poverty has nothing to do with the issue.
I watched an interview with one of the business owners who's company got torched. He also runs a charity for children in real poverty in 3rd world countries. These kids have nothing, and are grateful for their communities, and they want nothing more than the opportunity for an education.
Whereas these kids in 'so called poverty' in London - have free schooling, free healthcare, a benefits system that they abuse and they're running round with the latest mobiles, have big screen teles and designer label clothing. They don't know what real poverty is, other than an excuse to behave how they like.
If these kids abroad treated their communities in the same way, they would be beaten by their parents. Children are no longer frightened of consequence, because there isn't one.
We've destroyed our society with political correctness, human rights for all and all these other things that sounds so wonderful, and forgoten that children need discipline and to understand the consequences of breaking rules.
It's not the statements condemming the actions taking that I think are hypocracy. It's the false morality of these people. Low payed workers are facing a cut in living standards because of the deficit, but at the same time, the rich and Mp's can claim lavish expensise and avoid taxes legally. Prehaps I'm morally misguided, but is seems so wrong to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon_W
I'll ask anyone. What does a Eton and Oxford educated minister know about poverty?? What does the same person know about avoiding tax??
Answers on a poastcard.
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Ir's the nature of politics in this country - who was the last Prime Minister came from a humble background?
Not Cameron, possibly Brown (son of a Padre, worst PM of modern era), def. not Blair, so probably Major (who grew up in post-war Brixton) - who did not attend Eton, but is despised by the left and blair-voters. Will be totally unknown to the bone idle classes.
Surely more and more MPs are coming from working class backgrounds, so maybe some will eventually come from the can't-be-arsed classes (or maybe that is contrary).
I live in one of the toughest estates in Bristol, this week i've been building a garage - i really want to get back to work, as i can't believe the amount of men not much younger than me who are sat/stood on the street drinking and doing nothing. Quite rightly I find their lack of motivation pretty insulting. They don't care about politicians (or who they are) they just want their benefits, their addictions of choice and to do as little as possible - they will be idolising the scum who riot. >:(
Change the laws regarding guns - if caught with a fire arm that is illegal with or without live rounds, subsequent shooting of said person by an officer should go unchallenged - If you have an illegal fire arm you have it for a purpose of illegal use regardless of whether you fire it. It WIL take someone’s life, you are a serious threat to society if you believe it is acceptable to carry with you. Goodbye!
Change the law for benefits - commit a crime and have your benefit halted for a period related to the cost of your crime including the cost involves in setting up your community service and/or prison sentence. It really frustrates me that people believe it is their god dam given right to benefits including housing at the expenses of tax payers, even more so when they have the luxuries of Sky TV, 50”led TVs, surround sound systems, iphones on £40 monthly bills, Nike trainers need I go on.
It seems that people aren’t really being held accountable for their actions currently which is fundamentally wrong. Prisons are to homely which doesn’t give the right mid set to petty criminals that may have just been in the wrong place at the wrong time and made a bad decision. Make them accountable, give a sentence, serve the length regardless of good behaviour or overcrowding (if there isn’t enough space make space by putting 3 or 4 in a cell). Make it very uncomfortable for them and the likely hood is they won’t reoffend. Those that do should receive an extend sentence based on the fact it’s a second, third, fourth offence!
Introduce some basic laws which on the whole should not worry you unless you are criminal and we might just start to see an improvement in today’s shoddy excuse for a modern society.
Rant done.
Crosbie, that is the stupidest thing i've ever heard! If you have a 50" LED tv you'll get motion blur. Always go for plasma above 42" ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Crosbie
Seriously though, I agree but unfortunately we signed up with europe and all of those things would be classed as an infringment of human rights, even though I would barely class these animals as human.
Crosbie, that is the stupidest thing i've ever heard! If you have a 50" LED tv you'll get motion blur. Always go for plasma above 42" ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by dan_geoghegan
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I stand corrected. I wouldnt know tho as i only have a 32" lcd from 4 years ago. My wages wont stretch at the moment to buying a 50" plasma, thus i am angry at the government for not giving me money to buy a new one. After all mine is really old now and i feel hard done by coz my neighbours next door have a new big spangly one and i dont. :'( lol.
Have they been to Tottenham recently? ;)
Crosbie, that is the stupidest thing i've ever heard! If you have a 50" LED tv you'll get motion blur. Always go for plasma above 42" ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Crosbie
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I stand corrected. I wouldnt know tho as i only have a 32" lcd from 4 years ago. My wages wont stretch at the moment to buying a 50" plasma, thus i am angry at the government for not giving me money to buy a new one. After all mine is really old now and i feel hard done by coz my neighbours next door have a new big spangly one and i dont. :'( lol.[/quote]
What is galling is that of you weren't taxed to the hilt to pay for bone-idle scum, you would have more money in your pocket, that you earned for things you want and that really is the crux for me. I did not choose my place of birth, and don't have a say on the amount the HMRC want to subtract from my wages because other people choose to sit on their assholes.
The riots have moved on to new levels
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Please put your names on the above - damned if my hard-earned taxes will be paying all of their little smash-my-own-town-up mission.... >:(
Just returned from a two week holiday in the sun abroad, to be welcomed by rain and a nation recovering from unprecedented civil disorder. Like all law abiding citizens, I was appalled and felt a sense of shame as I watched the ugly riotous scenes on Sky news last week. Before I offer a contribution to this emotive debate, I wish to make it clear that I am not an apologist and unequivocally condemn all the criminal behaviour that occurred. My heart goes out to all the victims and especially Tariq Jahan and to all the relatives who lost loved ones to these mindless acts of violence.
In the short-term order needs to be restored and our city streets reclaimed. Thankfully, relative calm has returned due in part to a high police presence on our streets. Current levels of policing cannot be sustained and it’s clear to me that PM Cameron will be forced to revisit his proposed 20 per cent cuts in the police budget.
I believe that the police shooting in Tottenham was a trigger (not the underlying cause) for the riots that ensued. As events unfolded it became apparent that those involved in the looting and violence came from all social backgrounds and were motivated by many different reasons. In the long-term all sections of our society need to consider rationally all the contributing factors which led to this infectious sickness, if we are to find a cure. Knee-jerk reactions will not solve the problem in the long-term. One example, councils serving eviction notices on suspects (not convicted yet) have a statutory obligation to care for their homeless innocent offspring.
We live in one of the most unequal societies in the world and year on year under the red Tories and the blue Tories the gap between the rich and the poor has widened. We now have the highest number of unemployed among the 16 to 25 year old age group since records begun. A good time to cut the education maintenance allowance, which at worst helped to keep thousands of 16 to 19 year olds off the streets and gave them hope? I left school in 1975 with no qualifications and could leave a job on a Friday and start a new one of my choice (within reason) on the following Monday. My daughter left school recently with 3 A levels and she has applied for twenty jobs, receiving 2 replies. I am not making excuses for last week’s sickening scenes but, I am trying to make sense of why it happened and what can be done to prevent a reoccurrence.
Can we afford to keep building prisons? The prison population also reached a record high this week with a population of 85 thousand and a mere 1500 places remain.
Is it now time that a reality check is made that quite simply the population is too large with diminishing jobs and due to this fact an increasing reliance on benefits made available by excessive taxation of the employed making employment less than attractive for those on low salaries.
Think it's a bit of a joke that Camoron [of the wisteria ;D ] wants some yank plod to come over -- jeeezus ain't we got some plod capable of doing the job [called 'policing' I believe ] especially the excessively paid wafflers and jobsworths behind a desk or are they non essential high cost posts to move paper about and turn out at posh 'dos'---value for the taxpayer :-? every one that turns up is nothing less than an Inspector--are there any actual plods or they all promoted ::)
Col, who should the young unemployed look to for moral guidance? The Bankers? The Law-makers who stole from the public purse? The Law-enforcers who allegedly took bungs for information? The media who allegedly hacked in to the phones of murdered children? Or what about their so called role models, footballers - champion's of morality on £250 thou a week?
Moral guidance Ken---think we should say 'Parents' first and foremost plus the fact that parents are legally responsible for their kids until 18. This point is missed time and time again--it isn't the taxpayers liability the damage and grief the scrotes cause.
Time for parents to be responsible and if there is some question over the parents moral integrity and ability to teach their kids basic 'right from wrong' then we are bringing into the equation the freedom to breed without scrutiny from the state/society :-?
Absolutely no doubt that discipline in school needs firming up considerably---the teaching profession and their associated political windbags of the last c.15 years have much to answer for---controversial ? I think not --- they[a generalisation] have seriously undermined the kids perceptions and understanding of authority and behaviour to societies detriment :'(
One other thing [maybe not ;) ]---- the culture around drugs has got to be destroyed--not helped by increased production in prehistoric Afghanshoiteland --ridiculous ::)
Col, I could not agree more but, unless we (Society) can offer our young generation hope for the future I fear that things will get worse. On the day our troops invaded Iraq a journalist asked the then chancellor Gordon Brown, how much the war would cost? Brown replied, “Whatever it takes.” I just wish the same level of political will was applied in trying to fix broken Britain. I have brought my daughter up in what I hope was a caring and loving environment but she still can’t get a job. There are tens of thousands of youngsters out there who really want to work. We always find the cash to fight wars; we always find the cash to bail out banks. It’s about time we invested in our young generation.
completely agree about discipline in schools, having been in school/college until about 18 months ago there was no discipline in the classroom and, this really gets me, all the kids who were constantly screaming, shouting, abusing teachers etc. got put in special classes and got to go on trips all the time and go paint balling, take days off to go off with a social worker to the beach because they "have a bad life at home" only to come back to school the next day and laugh and joke about how easy it is to BS these people and get loads of free stuff, do what they like and get rewarded for it... while i'm sat at the back of the classroom being completely bored because all the classes are have been dumbed down to the point of stupidity, being completely ignored by the teacher when i do actually need to ask something because they're trying to stop all the idiots throwing the smallest kid in the class out the window with harsh language! Bring back the cane and actually teach something interesting and worth while, don't dumb it down because Fred and Boris don't have the mental capacity to understand it, there are 30 other kids in the class who do understand it and want to move on, if Fred and Boris don't understand it and want to learn tell them to come back after the lesson so they can learn it, i guarantee they wouldn't because they're the first ones out the door at the end of the lesson because they're life ambition it is to have 10 kids and live on benefits! If the punishment for not doing the set work were a lash on the hand then people might think twice about not doing any work, as it is you can do fek all work be told to stay behind after the class, ignore it get told to go and see the headmaster ignore that too and it all goes away! What the hell kind of good is that?! If they get away with that at school is it any surprise they think they can get away with it in real life too?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Col
Rant over >:( really gets on my tits!
PS. there was actually a girl on my college course who's life goal was to have 3 kids, get a council house, live on benefits and die by the time she's 40!
and the worrying thing... is I'm not even joking!
Ken, as a kid i looked to my parents, extended family and neighbours for guidance. The idea that others should provide it is nonsense. As a teacher, i provide tons of support and guidance, but my primary role is as an educator.Quote:
Originally Posted by monday21
Not sure what football team you support, but Bristol Rovers (my team, my local team) pay modest wages yet remain heroes for local young supporters.
completely agree about discipline in schools, having been in school/college until about 18 months ago there was no discipline in the classroom and, this really gets me, all the kids who were constantly screaming, shouting, abusing teachers etc. got put in special classes and got to go on trips all the time and go paint balling, take days off to go off with a social worker to the beach because they "have a bad life at home" only to come back to school the next day and laugh and joke about how easy it is to BS these people and get loads of free stuff, do what they like and get rewarded for it... while i'm sat at the back of the classroom being completely bored because all the classes are have been dumbed down to the point of stupidity, being completely ignored by the teacher when i do actually need to ask something because they're trying to stop all the idiots throwing the smallest kid in the class out the window with harsh language! Bring back the cane and actually teach something interesting and worth while, don't dumb it down because Fred and Boris don't have the mental capacity to understand it, there are 30 other kids in the class who do understand it and want to move on, if Fred and Boris don't understand it and want to learn tell them to come back after the lesson so they can learn it, i guarantee they wouldn't because they're the first ones out the door at the end of the lesson because they're life ambition it is to have 10 kids and live on benefits! If the punishment for not doing the set work were a lash on the hand then people might think twice about not doing any work, as it is you can do fek all work be told to stay behind after the class, ignore it get told to go and see the headmaster ignore that too and it all goes away! What the hell kind of good is that?! If they get away with that at school is it any surprise they think they can get away with it in real life too?!Quote:
Originally Posted by NoYou
Rant over >:( really gets on my tits!
PS. there was actually a girl on my college course who's life goal was to have 3 kids, get a council house, live on benefits and die by the time she's 40!
and the worrying thing... is I'm not even joking!
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As a teacher, it is really sad that you experienced this. I also find it really disgraceful that we indulge the kids who misbehave. Believe me, that i am very vocal about not rewarding the poorly behaved and anti-social kids where i teach. Sadly too many teachers forget that government policy has moved away from this (Gove's White Paper) and still think they are working under the wooly left-wing nonsense dreamed-up by 13 years of Labour. My approach is to reward those that work hard (i actually rank the highest of any teacher in the school for using the positive reward system), which is progressive and akin to mindset of self-accountability and free-enterprise.
completely agree about discipline in schools, having been in school/college until about 18 months ago there was no discipline in the classroom and, this really gets me, all the kids who were constantly screaming, shouting, abusing teachers etc. got put in special classes and got to go on trips all the time and go paint balling, take days off to go off with a social worker to the beach because they "have a bad life at home" only to come back to school the next day and laugh and joke about how easy it is to BS these people and get loads of free stuff, do what they like and get rewarded for it... while i'm sat at the back of the classroom being completely bored because all the classes are have been dumbed down to the point of stupidity, being completely ignored by the teacher when i do actually need to ask something because they're trying to stop all the idiots throwing the smallest kid in the class out the window with harsh language! Bring back the cane and actually teach something interesting and worth while, don't dumb it down because Fred and Boris don't have the mental capacity to understand it, there are 30 other kids in the class who do understand it and want to move on, if Fred and Boris don't understand it and want to learn tell them to come back after the lesson so they can learn it, i guarantee they wouldn't because they're the first ones out the door at the end of the lesson because they're life ambition it is to have 10 kids and live on benefits! If the punishment for not doing the set work were a lash on the hand then people might think twice about not doing any work, as it is you can do fek all work be told to stay behind after the class, ignore it get told to go and see the headmaster ignore that too and it all goes away! What the hell kind of good is that?! If they get away with that at school is it any surprise they think they can get away with it in real life too?!Quote:
Originally Posted by pilninggas
Rant over >:( really gets on my tits!
PS. there was actually a girl on my college course who's life goal was to have 3 kids, get a council house, live on benefits and die by the time she's 40!
and the worrying thing... is I'm not even joking!
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As a teacher, it is really sad that you experienced this. I also find it really disgraceful that we indulge the kids who misbehave. Believe me, that i am very vocal about not rewarding the poorly behaved and anti-social kids where i teach. Sadly too many teachers forget that government policy has moved away from this (Gove's White Paper) and still think they are working under the wooly left-wing nonsense dreamed-up by 13 years of Labour. My approach is to reward those that work hard (i actually rank the highest of any teacher in the school for using the positive reward system), which is progressive and akin to mindset of self-accountability and free-enterprise.
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Merv, with respect I disagree – we (Society) must stop writing these youngsters off and engage with them. We have still not learnt the lessons of the national riots of 1981 (on Thatcher’s watch). You keep referring to the past Labour administration as socialist and left-wing. Labour positioned itself right of centre and abandoned its socialist principles long before the party came to office in 97. Tony Blair has always been an admirer of Mrs T. Who was responsible for introducing the Public Private Partnership (PPP), to fund the building of our schools and hospitals? Who held the reins of power with a massive majority when the gap between the rich and poor widened year after year? I could go on and on, but the fact is that give or take a few minor differences in policies, the Labour and Tory party can both be likened to two peas in a pod.
Perhaps it would be fitting the next time Mr Blair and Mr Cameron attend one of Mr Murdoch’s BQs for all 3 men to end the evening with a rendition of “Land of hopelessness and gory.” :P
I agree don't write them off, but equaly don't molly coddle them, take them on trips, give them treats and generaly reward them be being little ****s! If they want to dick about and generaly disrupt the education of 25 other people in the classes, then have them do somthing to benefit society like cleaning the toilets, mopping the floors, clearing up the lunch hall after lunch. They would soon decide that they'd rather sit quietly and do their work!
Well there is some damning evidence from G30!!.
Seems that 'ability streaming' has been abandoned which ,from what G30 says, is impacting on the majority. Roll this scenario out through the country and it could be an immense problem. Surely kids are assessed throughout schooling and are provided suitable curriculae to challenge and educate pupils of all abilities. This was the case years ago and for the brighter examples Grammar schools existed which worked together with Secondary schools. Is it conceivable that we have failing schools, pupils, and importantly teachers in these modern times - some kids can't even read by 11 :o
These 'unruly' kids cost the taxpayer a fortune with their lack of discipline and the state provision of 'speshul' schools/schooling-fact. The state should not be pandering to them in this way or how G30 describes. Some more straight talking needs to be done especially to the parents ;D Is a state financed education a 'right' or a 'privilege' ? -another topic :)
A quite recent report by some education bods,whom I have forgotten, made the, not unsurprising, statement after their research that the majority of these 'attention deficit' 'hyper-actives' were not suffering from any such ailments but were actually not too bright - shock, horror.
These riots have opened up a huge debate about virtually everything :D
This is the thing col, they do assess you to "ability stream" as you put it, but only the first year you start secondary school. They then decide what "set" your in and that's that's until your GCSE year when they have a bit of a reshuffle. This is also assuming that these disruptive kids are all idiots, which unfortunatly isn't the case! Some of them are very smart but due to a lack of discipline and an emmense boredom throughout their school lives don't have any respect or self control! There were 1 maybe 2 teachers in the whole of my school that could control a class, both of them from an older generation of teachers where discipline wasn't frowned upon and somthing to avoid at all costs. There were also the only teachers who engaged with the class and made the class content interesting and even somtimes enjoyable. When working with these teachers some of the kids who were disruptive and belligerent at other times came through as some of the smartest kids in the class!
Now I'm not saying its all the teachers fault, although you do have to wonder if one teacher can do it, why can the rest?!
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Merv, with respect I disagree – we (Society) must stop writing these youngsters off and engage with them. We have still not learnt the lessons of the national riots of 1981 (on Thatcher’s watch). You keep referring to the past Labour administration as socialist and left-wing. Labour positioned itself right of centre and abandoned its socialist principles long before the party came to office in 97. Tony Blair has always been an admirer of Mrs T. Who was responsible for introducing the Public Private Partnership (PPP), to fund the building of our schools and hospitals? Who held the reins of power with a massive majority when the gap between the rich and poor widened year after year? I could go on and on, but the fact is that give or take a few minor differences in policies, the Labour and Tory party can both be likened to two peas in a pod.
Perhaps it would be fitting the next time Mr Blair and Mr Cameron attend one of Mr Murdoch’s BQs for all 3 men to end the evening with a rendition of “Land of hopelessness and gory.” :P
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I have never wrote kids off, and i don't think it is a case of that happening. Being a practical teacher, in my career i have taught many disengaged kids (boys in particular, many who are already heavily involved in crime/drugs), and have always tried to give them something to take on as a platform for further education or a skilled trade. One lad i taught a few years back was from a single-parent background and was involved in TWOC, he usually arrived late and would either sit and abuse myself and other students or try to procure chisels etc to vandalise stuff or steal for his TWOC'ing. We managed to get him a qualification (he seemed to hate coursework ;D, so it was tough going). Anyway 6 months later i'm in town and he came up to me, shoke my hand and burst into tears. He then apologised and said he realised that it was tough trying to get a job etc. As he had no guidance at home (his mother was on benefits, dad long gone) it needed him to go and see real-life to know this. The great thing for him was he realised it was down to him to show initiative and take repsonsibly for his own success. A year or two ago he won a young apprentice of the year award. He turned it around, no one else, he did demand respect, he learned to command it through his hardwork. Sadly he is a rarity.
The tutor group i had last academic year, were all hardworking and totally adorable 8-), however they often said to me how galling it was that the kids who misbehaved were allowed to go and do special activities or were bribed with sweets by my woolly, lefty colleagues. Really pissed me off, i usually made any extra effort to praise them or do a little buffet as a treat for them at the end of every term.
Even after i graduated, i did some really crappy jobs, i remember having to hand-dig a sewage pipe that had leaked on a building site and getting covered in ****. I did not expect a brilliant job on day 1, i also took responsibility for myself.
As for PPP, or any of these things, a total joke (one thing i dislike about thatcher's socialism), let's build a country on the never-never, d'oh >:(, still less paid in benefits and we might have some money in the public purse to do it debt free (fat chance now).
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Merv, I really enjoy engaging with you in a sensible debate and I apologise if I have offended you with my comments relating to writing off our youngsters. I was referring to society in general and my comments were most certainly not directed at you.
Ken, no bother, it takes a lot more than that to offend me- and in fairness i didn't think you meant i personally write them off. If i did write off any kids at work, i would not be fit to do my job [in fairness i gave-up on one kid in my first year of teaching, when he physically assaulted me, but i think that was a pretty fair reaction] ::)Quote:
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I also enjoy the banter...... :P
Forget all that, did you hear David Starkey on Newsnight?
I get what he meant and kind of agree but bloody hell, don't say it on national tv if you're planning on getting any more work.
As soon as he mentioned Enoch Powell it was game over.
Watched Starkey a few times on the Question Time panel. A touch egotistic like Simon Cowell perhaps? I don't take him too seriously because I think he enjoys being controversial for the sake of it.
Yeah WB I was pmsl !!!! nearly died when he started reading out what the girl had said - innit ;DQuote:
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p.s. I think , in history, you'll find that Enoch Powell was originally in favour of encouraging immigration to bolster the work force----clearly later on his views changed ;D
p.p.s. Got to admit at least he had the nuts to say it on national tv---plenty just waffle to placate the sensibilities of vocal and ,sadly, influential minorities.
My uncle is a police officer in London and he is normally on the desk! He is quite a big fella...
And he had to go out in riot gear on the streets!
My couzin works in the call centre and before these riots she was due her four day rest needless to say, she wasnt allowed them and had to work over a week of 12 hour shifts....
Its terrible and gives people my age a bad name I an disgusted by it and when I saw the 12 year old boy swearing when he went to court then his mum swearing too, its no wonder why this happens...
This country is too soft!
no point in sending in the armed forces, it's not like they can use their toys on the scum.
no point in seding in the police as they aren't allowed to use their toys on the scum.
send in the boys with the tranq darts, go round with a container lorry and scoop them all up. dump them on anthrax island and forget about them.
no riots will ever happen again in this country - nuff said.
human rights ? gotta act like one before you earn the rights of one. >:(