Hey Lisa, hope you're on the mend. That guy ought to think himself lucky you weren't steaming round the bend in a 44 tonner. There wouldn't have been much left of him... pillock. :(
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Hey Lisa, hope you're on the mend. That guy ought to think himself lucky you weren't steaming round the bend in a 44 tonner. There wouldn't have been much left of him... pillock. :(
sorry to here of your off and wishing you a speedy recovery
Sorry to hear about your off! Get well soon ;)
ohno Lisa! there is a personal injury lawyer advertised on Biker FM (or send a mail to suggsy asking for details) he has an impressive track record, and im thinking of switching to him!....yes, he is a biker too :-)
hope you get well soon, and hope they can repair/replace that gorgeous bike!...
Lisa, so sorry to hear of your accident. Hope you have a speedy recovery back to full fitness. :)
I've given Lisa the name of someone I can personally recommend - who is a biker and helped me out with an issue recently. I know you were referring to Andrew Dalton, who is also very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnydangerous
Sounds like I'm being really dumb - but can someone explain what actually happened?
I got that Lisa came round a corner and there was a bike doing a U turn and she hit it. But I must have misunderstood something for that to be the fault of the other rider?
I'd of thought it as bloody daft sat in the middle of the road stationary with your feet down part way through a U-turn on a main road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
As Able Training said, the R1 biker should be grateful it was only another bike that came round the bend and not a wider vehicle.
What a horrible thing to happen, I think its all of our worst nightmares, coming round a corner and finding something there, he should have known better! Pratt!!
Get well soon.
I'd of thought it as bloody daft sat in the middle of the road stationary with your feet down part way through a U-turn on a main road.Quote:
Originally Posted by HensonA
As Able Training said, the R1 biker should be grateful it was only another bike that came round the bend and not a wider vehicle.[/quote]
Or a Truck :o :o Bloody muppet >:(
Instead he got hit on by a leggy 6ft blonde.... Not in the way he wouldve liked! ;D
sorry bloody typo from mobile phone predictive text lol
Wouldn't mind being hit by my 1st. leggy Blonde! ;)
What I'm saying is...
Did Lisa come round the corner, to find a bike in the middle of the road paddling round in a U Turn?
Or did Lisa come round the corner see a bike by the side of the road waiting to U turn who then pulled out in front of her across the road?
It doesn't seem clear from the description (and I don't know which bit of road near Lechlade it happened on)
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Originally Posted by Blackandchrome
;D ;D
GWS Lisa
hugs
Roxy x
Dex,
I came around the corner to see a man on an R1 , X m to my front, stood with his bike parallel (thats at 90 degrees) across the lane I was in ..... He was blocking the lane with his bike about a foot or more away from the white line maybe .... His right foot was VISIBLY on the floor and his direction of view was AWAY from me looking at oncoming traffic in the OPPOSITE lane .
He turned and saw me as I got closer and was already on the white line looking for my exit/escape route. I had seconds to decide 'sh1t wtf is he doing there is he moving or not ?' 'apply brakes now ' and 'where the hell am I going with this as there are 3 bikes in the oncoming lane and a car behind them' .... all a lot for a blonde bird to be thinking about in any time or situation !
Performing a U-turn normally involves pulling into the left hand side of the road. Stopping, checking your path is clear in both directions , performing a lifesaver and then making smoothe seemless move from one side of the road to the next OR maybe even just riding up the road another half mile to the roundabout and rejoin his mates in seconds few on his R1! A U-turn , not on any cbt or bike test I have ever seen involves parking your arse across a lane blocking the road and any other road users from moving through until your route is clear (Mark Able or Freddie please correct me if I am wrong )
He was very lucky I reacted how I did instead of creaming into him to be honest I think the guy actually may have moved into my path with me coming down the road , not sure if I sounded my horn to alert him or not, X -m at 60mph and reducing speed with thinking time isn't a great deal of time or space in any vehicle especially given my options. I could've gone into him directly into his side which would've given both of us massive injuries and I wouldn't be typing away here and eh wouldn't have a poorly strapped up finger.
Quick thinking, 11 years experience on 2 wheels and sheer bloody luck got us both off as lightly as we did.
My claim is now with Barratts a bike injury specialist. I just really want my bike fixing, the cost of my kit back and fair crack for the bruises to my body, my whiplash , my big fat swollen left hand which means I cannot drive my car (gearstick hand) and for the gravel rash and what appears to be a big bloody gash in my right hip , along with a big bruise on my left knee now and a bad left leg. I guess I need to look at long term implications and of course my bike being devalued due to the incident.
All these injuries are bad enough for your average bod on the street but I have just taken up martial arts , I run for 2 hours at a time 3x a week , I'm a very active and outdoorsy type and cannot get out and about and if I could manage it , I'd be climbing the bloody walls out of sheer frustration and boredom. I'm not a PS3 / park my arse in front of the television kind of girl. I can't imagine just relaxing and sitting round the pub with mates for a quiet drink all the time ... Its just not me !
It sounds a lot like you are both very lucky.
If that had been a more solid stationary hazard blocking the road when you came round the corner I fear you might not have been around to share what happened :(
Glad it was something soft you hit, good luck with the claim but I fear the best you can hope for is a 50/50.
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Given the police report has recommedations in it for him or a charge I know I'm quite safe with this one Dex had I been worse they were preparing for a much bigger charge. The report from the officers at the scene their diagrams and markings have me as the innocent party had it been a larger object it wouldn't have been doing a 3 point turn on a main road like that with a roundabout half a mile away ... This guy was either not thinking, very stupid or both
No three hundred maybe yards not metres heads still fecked after incident it happens so quick so painful and I'm still in clip trying to recall all details. Loads going on in my head reliving it thankfully there was police on the scene to do their report as I was too busy laying in the road wondering how i was how he was where the hell I was and if I had any internal injuries as I was getting cold on the ground had no idea where I'd hit on his bike at the time or anything else I may have clipped (handlebars for definite looking at my thigh)
End of the day that's what police and insurers are paid to do . Gather information and make sense of it and decide liability thankfully the police assured me none was on me
That's fair enough - I know it's quite a shock when you hit the road so I'm probably just missing something from the explanation, the Police were there at the time so they should have a better idea than I do over what happened :)
No **** sherlock ;D ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dex
When you do piece it all together make sure you let the authorities know won't you ;)
I don't get it either. 300m and you still hit him??
Mitch not a scoobies seriously don't know if he moved into me what the hell, all I know is he looked round at the last minute and saw me , the investigation is going on now ... sods law has me in the wrong now and I get in the $h!t because the luck I'm having of late , I will be out of pocket for the bike, for my kit as well as all the other crap going on in the background of my life that a few friends on here know about ...
Might as well just throw myself off a fecking cliff and have done with it .... At least I'd not have any more worries, that said I'd probably break my arm and land on a disguarded mattress! ... and before someone says dry your eyes sweetheart speak to a real friend of mine someone who knows me and they will put you straight !
Right now if I didn't have bad luck I'd not have any luck at all !
Seriously, good luck, it doesn't sound that straight forward. No doubt his insurance will try and feck you over, and shift some blame...no witnesses?
none... even tho his mates passed me by on the other side of the road
300m is a long way, must be a mistake. Don't say it in front of their solicitors if it gets to that!
Stopping distance at 60mph is less than 100m. 300ft sounds maybe more realistic.
Agreed ... wait and see what comes out of it all, the bobby said I'd have to be going a lot faster than that bike is capable of to him not to have seen me coming when he made his move tho .... ah crap it will sort itself in the wash I'm sure
No **** sherlock ;D ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ninja_richie
When you do piece it all together make sure you let the authorities know won't you ;)[/quote]
Perhaps you are a good enough rider not to feel the need to learn from the experiences of others. Or perhaps you don't care how accidents happen and what we can do to avoid being the one hitting the road.
But since I assume the police arrived afterwards and only saw the result, while Lisa arrived during, there might be at least as much to learn from her recollections as there is from the official account (which will no doubt involve arguments from insurance companies and solicitors, neither of whom were there either)
The sad thing is I don't remember much of it all ..... so much going on right now my heads buzzing around in circles.... I just need it all to sort itself out with minimum crap. they rang and offered a courtesy bike today i had to decline it because i cannot use my left hand still to lift a kettle let alone use a clutch or drive my car .... cut right off from family and friends cos I can't drive at the moment .
I just want all this crap to be over :'(
A few warnings that I've picked up over the years.
The police are not the least bit interested civil liability, they are only interested in any criminal proceedings and anything they say should be taken in that context.
They know very well that they will only be successful in securing a criminal conviction if they have enough evidence to satisfy the case "beyond reasonable doubt".
Someone could be acquitted of a criminal offence (often through lack of evidence) but found liable for civil damages because the civil system works on the "basis of probability" (an example being OJ Simpson).
Furthermore insurers want to come to an agreement themselves without the costs of going to court.
What I'm saying is that what the police have said should not be taken literally to reflect what a civil court or an insurer would decide, because each has difference priorities and works in a different way. The insurers priority (both of them) is to settle the case in the cheapest way for them and not necessarily the fairest.
Also I would add a note of caution about credit hire vehicles which is not the same as a courtesy vehicle you are entitled to as part of your insurance.
Sometimes it's not even clear exatly what you are being offered.
Credit hire vehicles are offered at expensive rates, but you often have to sign a contract that says you may be liable if they costs are not paid by the insurer.
If it works out for any reason that the case goes against you or the insurer refuses to pay the ludricrous charges then you can find yourself faced with a large bill.
So I would say make sure you know what you are being offered - is it a courtesy vehicle with no charge as part of your insurance policy? or is it a credit hire vehicle with liability on yourself? You need to read the paperwork and not believe what you are being told (unfortuantely).
Best wishes with both the recovery and the insurance.
No **** sherlock ;D ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dex
When you do piece it all together make sure you let the authorities know won't you ;)[/quote]
Perhaps you are a good enough rider not to feel the need to learn from the experiences of others. Or perhaps you don't care how accidents happen and what we can do to avoid being the one hitting the road.
But since I assume the police arrived afterwards and only saw the result, while Lisa arrived during, there might be at least as much to learn from her recollections as there is from the official account (which will no doubt involve arguments from insurance companies and solicitors, neither of whom were there either) [/quote]
Ok...I'll be less subtle for you.
Until facts about this accident are known and established, speculation about what happened isn't helping BT or yourself should you wish to know exactly how the accident occurred and to educate yourself on RTI's.
This is a (mostly) a public forum for which anyone access. If you wish to continue your CSI of BT's incident which is currently a "live" investigation, for whoevers benefit, then leave it to PM's until facts are known.
Hope you have a speedy recovery BT. !
I would suggest any of these posts that mention distances etc should be removed as it is a live investigation...especially as no one knows if its 300 metre, yards or feet and this easily can be misused or misquoted!
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Originally Posted by lisacarr23
done and edited :)
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Originally Posted by ninja_richie
Thanks for being less subtle.
You're right, speculating over what happened without facts could be enormously misleading. So I'm glad I haven't speculated over what happened and, as you suggested, have been trying to find out facts over the RTC.
Well , I had the word finally after 4 weeks of waiting, the Speed Triple, my poor Eris is a write off . Next question is how much will I get, I've priced them up online for the same bike, same spec so I guess its me fighting the insurance for what I think it right....
So the next question is what do I get ? Another SP3 ? An older 2008 SP3 same bike just more miles on it for less money and a dirt bike ? Or get myself a 2007 Fireblade like Kaz used to have , nice and comfy compared to the GSXR1000 or something totally different. I did buy the SP3 to slow down and not sure what good it did me.
I guess I best wait to see how my wrist and shoulder turn to to be totally fair I may not be able to ride a sports bike again and may be left riding a naked muscle bike instead.... I am 38 this year...
What a 4 months , relationship ends, bike a write off and not ran in bloody ages as I'm trying to get fit again . I just hope the Army give me the posting I want now at least thats some good news 8-)
Lis' x
1 Div Herford, that'll learn ya :)
Ah Herford the only Germany posting I got 78-81
Wahey, 95-98 for me you old git, yellow handbags ftw!
Mitch , what sqn were you ? Been there done that was on Armour from 1993 to 1996 left to 4x after Bosnia... eeek , I'm not going back to HF, my brothers there now ! NEVER again !