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Think of all the stuff you're learning about your bike!!!
its hard to when i think about the amount of money its costing me :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Nooj
Oh bummer!!! Sounds like a CDI. Look on e-bay. I got one on there for £40.
Just think of the money it would cost you in a dealer and the satifaction of riding a bike you know is good!
Yea that's the only thing that's keepin me going tbh if I got it done in a garage I may as well have scrfapped the bike and got a new one for the ammount it would have cost me, still doesn't change the fact that I've now spent the best part of a grand sorting it out :( but just thinkin about getting back out on the road with it gets me excited so... cat be too bad eh ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon_W
Geo
A good education isn't free! It's hard to see past the situation you're in when you're still in it, but when it's done you'll be dead chuffed with yourself.
And as you say, it's way cheaper then just handing it over to a workshop.
And the weather's not to enticing right now, so it's not like you're missing the summer.
Right got the new CDI through today fitted it on no problem... hit the starter AND... the battery is dead... :/ FML! going to get a charger tomorrow and then we will see what happens xD this is just getting silly now.
Geo
Battery is on charge overnight with the stupidly expensive charger that i had to buy bc it was the only one in stock :/ oh well should be starting it up tomorrow! YIPPEE!!
Geo
I'd have bump-started it just to see if it's sorted or not... :-?
Have you put a drizzle of oil in the bore?? Do that before starting.
I'd also push it up and down the road a few times in gear with the plug out to get oil round the engine and gearbox.
Will do m8, just gotta wait til after work now ... this day is gunna DRAG!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon_W
Then I can spend tonight breaking in the engine, what fun! :p
well after work today i went up to my bike hit the start and it fired up instantly... but there was a loud nocking noise coming from the engine... sounds like a big end bearing failure... F**K!!! This is really starting to get on my tits something proper now, going to call a garage tomorrow and get a quote for doing the work... not doing it myself i just want the thing fixed now and i don't have the space/time to do it properly! Really dejected bc everything that i've done seems to be working perfectly but one stupid thing has completely ruined it all... bummed out something royal, and don't have a clue when i'm gunna be able to afford to get it sorted...
a very pissed off
Geo
Oh man. Get the motor out, and get it over to Hullavington. I've been told they're really cheap, and do a pukka job. So close, but no cigar yet... :(
had a google of the mini-moto guys in Hullavington and from their website it looks like they deal exclusively with mini-moto racing am i missing something here? or got the wrong place? :3 don't want to go to the hassle of getting the thing over there if i'm at the wrong placeQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark_Able
Give them a call.
Slight change in plan, Jaydee has offered to strip the engine so that i can send the crank off the PJME to be rebuilt, I dropped the engine back out the other day but I'm now having problems finding a way to get the engine up to his, if anybody in/around Salisbury could give a hand, it'd be much appreciated and there would be a pint or two in it for you of course! If you could then just send me a PM so we can sort it out, thanks in advance (being hopeful here)
Geo
Right due to not being able to get the engine up to Jaydees I decided to have a crack on my own and see what happened! Got the clutch cover off and cleaned out the remaining oil, got the clutch/balancer gears/tacho drive etc. off no worries then moved over to the flywheel which proved a bit more of a problem!
I had to get the flywheel nut off which meant i had to stop the flywheel/crank from turning but didn't have the stupidly overpriced service tool from Aprilia! TO THE INGENUITY GIRAFFE! I had a bit of a think and decided it would be easier to stop it turning crank side rather than flywheel side, so i thunk and i thunk and eventually came up with this...
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...6-08200438.jpg
I used a bit of nylon cord i had to weave through the small end of the con-rod around the cylinder head mounts on the crank case, i tied it up tightly while the crank was at the bottom of its rotation so that when it tried to push up it held in place. Pretty good eh?! :p Anyways i used the same method when tightening up the flywheel puller nut and had a very brown moment when it came off because it made a noise very much like something breaking! but can't see anything amiss so i will assume it was just the noise it makes when it comes off!
At this point i had a look over the stator and it looks like its been gouged at some point and has a nasty gash on it, must have been like that for a while but think i may replace it just for peace of mind, provided they aren't too expensive.
got that off and then removed any remaining gears and clips then got to work on the crank case bolts, i had already figured out that the last person who did anything on the engine had an OBSESSION with locktite! I have yet to find a single bolt on the bike that hasn't had the locktite treatment! Had to use a touch of lighter fluid and a socket extension on the end of an allen key to budge them! Got them out eventually and then gave the crank case a bit of a tap with a rubber bammer and the case halves came apart like a dream, I immediately understood what people mean when they say "There is nothing to these engines" its absolutely unbelievable how simple they are...
I haven't yet been able to get the crank out though. I've tried a few things but don't want to go trying to brute force it out unless thats what I'm supposed to do! I had a nose in haynes and it just says "press it out" just wondering if anyone could enlighten me here, had a quick google but didn't turn much up.
Geo
the output shaft is simply stuck in the inner race of the main bearings, you can GENTLY heat up the casings with a blowtorch as youre going to have new crank seals.......
the give the end of the output shaft a tap with a block of wood, dont damage the threads tho. the crank will come out, dont let it drop on the floor.....
someone may have used "Locktite bearing seal" tho if theyve been that keen with the thread locking compound.....
Will have another go at it tonight, I don't have a blow torch but will heat it up a bit with a hot air gun and see where it gets me, got new crank seals so not worried about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnydangerous
Thanks Geo
if you can get the crank out with the bearings thats ok, or the bearings may stay in the cases, either way is ok......
seeing as youre replacing bearings and seals you may be able to heat the casings and tap the bearings to get it all out rather than possibly damage the thread on the crank webs
once the carnk is out you can take the bearings off, or send it like that for PJME to take bearings off.
Could you put in the oven?? Gas 9 15 mins should expand the cases.
I can as a last resort but will give it a try with the heat gun first
The crank is out, ended up putting the case in the oven for 15 mins... 20 mins... 25 mins.... ping! one crank ready to serve!
Will get it sent off to PJME and will hopefully have a working bike this time next week! :D
Geo
just changed all the crank seals and I'm now obsessively polishing my crank case until i get the crank back from PJME ^^ thanks allot for all the help people especially Jaydee and Jon, your stick it in the oven advice has been especially helpful :p wouldn't have got the crank or the seals out without it ^^
Geo
Nice one!!! 8-)
Sent the crank off today with next day guarantee, hoping to get it back by the end of the week so i can get it fixed over the weekend, being quite hopeful i think though! when i get it back should be an hour or so to get the engine back together and then a day to get the rest of the bike back together (mainly due to the Italian awkwardness of 99% off the nuts/bolts/screws/mounts).
Geo
Just got a call from pjme my crank is rebuilt to within a tenth of a thou centre to centre! Very highly reccomend them for all 2 stroke needs, the rebuild was £106 with a new con rod and trued up! Should get it back tomorrow and the engine back together by Thursday night, and then will get in back into the frame Friday night Saturday morning and then it should all be up and running! I've replaced/rebuilt pretty much everything on the bike, new cdi, topend, conrod, RAVE control unit, main bearings, all the crank seals/O-Rings and a few other things and had the crank rebuilt. I also stripped the gears and gave them all a good clean and general check over... there isn't really that much more I can replace short of buying all the parts and building a whole new bike! XD so fingers crossed... along with every other crossable part of my body, its going to be running like new... now I'm just praying for good weather this weekend!
Geo
Good luck with it! Let us know how you get on.
The engine in back together went fairly smoothly only a couple of awkward bits, will get it back in the frame tomorrow and hopefuly wired up etc too. Should then have it running on Sunday! *prays*
Geo
Finaly after many many long hours and lots and lots of money, it is alive and running well can't hear anything nasty as of yet so I think it is finaly sorted!
Just got to run the engine in now and on that note...
One of the main things I have learnt from this whole experience is... haynes is crap! When I started doing things my own way everything went sooooo much smoother, for example, when I followed haynes` way of getting the engine back in the frame it was a huge hassle and took me 2 days to do... when I ignored haynes and did it my own way it took... about and hour... anyways rant over I was actualy going to ask what I should do about running the engine in, haynes says 500 miles keeping it under 6k rpm and keep the revs changing don't sit at one spot for long then another 500 miles not going over 9k rmp, keep the revs changing... then you can go nuts.
I'm perfectly happy to do it if it needs to be done that way I clocked up about 100 miles today and started about the same time I get off work... so I can probably clock up the 1000 miles in a week if I spend all day sat/Sunday out aswell as after work but pbv I don't want to be pootleing about that low in the rev range if I don't have to!
Second thing does anyone know how to set the RAVE valve up properly? I could probably muddle through on my own with it but if anybody has experience setting them up your help would be much apreciated!
Now please excuse me while I do my happy dance!
Geo
;D
Well done.
With the amount of experience you gained getting the bike sorted, I bet we could blindfold you and you will be able to disassemble and reassemble the entire bike ;D ;D
Well done!!! Glad it's finally going.
Regards running in, don't be afraid to let it rev, just don't load the engine up too much.
8-) 8-) 8-)
I ran my old CBR600 in exactly by the book, and it never let me down in the 58000miles I owned it. If you don't run it in properly, and something goes wrong, you'll always be asking yourself 'was it cos I didn't run it in?' Regular oil changes is my advice. Change at 500 miles, then again at 1000 miles, then cane it... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Does anything happen under 6000rpm on those little things? I had a go on a mate's RS125 recently, and it wouldn't pull away under 5000!
You can use them at quite low revs you just have to be VEEEERRRRRRYYYYY gentle with the clutch, and you won't get more than about 40 out of it at 6k :( oh well might as well slog it out for the 1000 miles :)
Welll done all fixed up :) about time enjoy!
I Remember running my ybr in that week flew by out all day and night riding :) lucky it went 50ish at 6revs :) see you out soon :)
No ammount of buggery can describe how pissed I am now... was going to work this morning on the bike and as I turned into the trading estate... the bike high sided... I am fine it was at low speed (maybe 15 mph) I have a bit of grazing on my knee because I was only wearing jenes (and that is the last time EVER that I do I might add!) And a sprained wrist. The only reason I can see for it happening is cold tyres and a slightly exuberant lean angle leading to yet another disaster...
I work just up the road from hayballs so after I had stopped shaking I rode it over and it seems like damage is minimal, RH indicator, RH handlebar and break lever need replacing but other than that it is fine apart from some cosmetic damage, I left it there as the handle bar was almost completely snapped off. And they ordered the parts today it should be sorted by the end of the week.
Luckily I had my visor up which stopped my helmet taking any impact just some scratches on the visor and a tiny scratch on the chin guard. So all is good on that front, I also have a minute scuff on my jacket.
If there is a god... he is picking on me! :p
Other than that the bike is running fine and dandy! No problems atall :)
Geo
Good to hear you are ok ;)
BB
George, you don't get much luck mate. Be thankful it was only 15mph I guess. When I highsided at Pembrey, I was doing about 90mph, ended up in RUH for a week, and on crutches for another 5 weeks... :(
Yea ir could have been much worse! I went back up to have a look at where it happened and there is a patch of what looked like disel maybe a half foot across not sure if its what caused the back sliding resulting in this but it seems a bit coincidental...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_Able
I went down to the hospital this afternoon because my wrist was causing me a lot of pain. They did some xrays which showed nothing, the doctor thenhad a poke and prod, apparently I have a possible scaphoid fracture, which is the bone that carries theblood away from your hand... apparently I have to wear a splint until the 11th and then go back for more xrays because it should show up by then if I have fractured it... will let you know :)
Geo