It would definately recover because we wouldn't be polluting the atmosphere anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanny
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It would definately recover because we wouldn't be polluting the atmosphere anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanny
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgQX3ndQQg4[/media]
If I was the type of person to worry which thankfully I'm not I would be worried about the continual nuclear meltdown happening in Fukushima Japan.
This has been constant since 11th March 2011
That is much more likely to kill you and your family than the global warming hoax yet our government or any other government does nothing to stop it :-/
If you want to get away from that then you need to move to the Southern hemisphere where you will be safer for a while.
Hehe this is really good.
Part two
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R01fQD5syyo[/media]
Im bored ;D
Get out on your bike then ;)
Why would the vast majority of those who have dedicated most of their working lives researching global warming, the climatologists lie and be part of a ‘scam’?
It seems to me that the loudest voices arguing against the findings of the climatologists are the oil companies, their agents and the politicians they sponsor.
The US is one of the biggest polluters so I was not surprised at the time, when Former president George W Bush pulled out of the Kyoto agreement which set targets for reducing CO2 emissions. The then President pulled out of the Kyoto Protocol in 2001, saying, “implementing it would gravely damage the US economy.”
My money is on the independent scientists and not the champions (or their bankrolled agents) of the capitalist free market economy who have a clear conflict of interest.
You wouldn't expect Turkeys to vote for Christmas, would you? :-?
:o
I've been out for an hour tonight - quiet roads and it's mild too 8-)
Ken
Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for Global Warming fraud / John Coleman
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ&feature=related[/media]
Nice one Goldie [smiley=thumbup.gif]
Swanny I don’t want to get bogged down with who said what and when, but suggest you check out this John Coleman chap before you believe all his claims.
30,000 so called ‘scientists’ (only 9,000 of whom actually have phDs) signed a petition in 1998 against global warming. Turns out apparently, none agreed to be party to a lawsuit (I’m happy to stand corrected). No one asks Coleman how he got all those people to agree to sign onto a lawsuit, nor is he asked what the legal grounds for the suit will be. As far as I can ascertain, 5 years on and no lawsuit was ever filed against Al Gore.
According to the Washington Post, John Coleman's claims were taken from a report funded by the Science and Public Policy Institute - which is a very official sounding name from what to me appears to be nothing more than a conspiracy theorist website who's President is a long term Capital Hill politician. These guys are still claiming that sea levels aren't rising - yeah right, tell that to the Penguins in Antarctica ;) Their "Articles" are all written by "staff" from what I can tell anyway.
Well, I think I'm out of this particular thread now, I never have and never will get taken in by conspiracy theories. That's my opinion and everyone else is entitled to their's. I still believe we landed on the moon ;)
Graeme, I wouldn’t dismiss all conspiracy theories out of hand, but judge each one on its own merits.
Despite the vast majority of doubters, it took the families of the Hillsborough victims over 20 years to prove that their conspiracy theory was indeed actually true. >:(
What about Mohamed Al Fayed’s claim that Diana and his son Dodi’s death was not an accident, but a ‘conspiracy’? ::) :-? ;)
Good point ken :)Quote:
Originally Posted by monday21
But we did land on the moon ;)
This too much agreeing is not healthy ;D
But yes I agree, we must have landed on the moon otherwise the 'clangers' would never have been discovered. :D ;) ;D
I do , I will , and I will not care about the weather ?? :'(Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanny
And there's no such thing as "Fergie Time"........................................ . :oQuote:
Originally Posted by monday21
Selfish I know but I probably only have 20 years left max and no kids so I don't care about global warming :P :)
;D ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by monday21
Im hoping to get a ride in today, its been far too long and too full of illness :(
I need to get a new tyre. Good excuse to go for a ride. :)
And there's no such thing as "Fergie Time"........................................ . :o[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWGraeme
Well, believers say that only ‘God’ can control time. :D ;) ;D
Did 120 miles today, loads of fun :D
Forget global warming, Alaska is headed for an ice age
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/articl...headed-ice-age
That IS global warning...it doesn't just mean "everywhere is getting warmer" lol
Yeah, its the underlying global trend which is important - as that is towards warmer temperatures, some places will get colder and others warmer. As an example, should the Gulf Stream slow down or move due to desalination from melted Arctic waters (due to warmer temperatures there), then we could be faced with severe cold winters over here.
We also need to start looking at the bigger picture - move outside of our own personal bubble of where we live and our own longevity. The earth's climate has and always will change slowly compared to one of our generations, so looking at what's happened over just a few years or decades really isn't looking at the underlying trend.
Damn, and I said I was out of this thread ::) :D :)
Ah but they've been telling us the icecap is melting which is a lieQuote:
Originally Posted by Dabz
Ah but they've been telling us the icecap is melting which is a lie [/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanny
Where did you read that one Swanny?
Here's one example of many that tells the opposite is true:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...mallest-extent
Erm there's no question that the ice caps are melting - the satellite pics and evidence are everywhere.
Must not get drawn into this big debate but its so hard :p
From the info I've seen they are definitely growing
Someone's lying. Follow the money to work out which one.
You gotta lay off. You might become paranoid..... ;)
:D ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jon_W
I'm sure that you can find a website somewhere in the world that will claim all the satelite imagery has been photoshoped, video from the International Space Station has been edited with special effects and that all the researchers that go to the polar icecaps have been bribed by the oil companies to deliberately falsify the evidence ;) :D :o :-? ::) :-X
Ok here's a question for those that believe in global warming.
If it's as bad as they say and the climate is going to get worst and worst is it a good idea to bring children into the world??
Things are ok-ish now but what about in 20 years time??
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Originally Posted by Jon_W
If that is meant for me I'm not the slightest bit paranoid as I don't believe in global warming :P
Exactly. Do you unquestionably believe everything your government and the main stream media tells you?Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWGraeme
;)
As I don't watch tele if I'm interested in a subject I do a lot of research. When the truth started coming out about global warming (emails) I looked into it. From what I've seen there is nothing to worry about in regards to global warming, apart from the extra taxes etc. Sadly the same can't be said about Fukushima. If you want something to worry about that's all you need :D
Oh yea more global warming in action
;)
China's Coldest Winter in Decades
http://www.weather.com/news/china-co...inter-20130106
Maybe when we are encased in ice you will realise that you're being lied to ;D
Lol can't you understand tho, this cold Chinese winter is CAUSED by global warming. Global warming doesn't simply mean "everywhere is getting warmer". Snowy has already explained why it is causing these new low temperatures in Alaska...
A lot of conspiracy theorists have the same trait in that they'll believe some of what they read and ignore other parts to make their theory have more weight
As you know there is no bigger sceptic than me Swanny. Despite the lack of hard evidence to back up your claims I give in and accept that the vast majority of the world’s climatologists are feeding us all porkie pies. :P ;) :)
And it could be that the health professionals may have been lying for years about the harmful effects of tobacco so I think I might start smoking again. :P ;) :)
I give up, believe what you want to believe ;D