Re: Tories shoot themselves in the foot
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Originally Posted by dan_geoghegan
[quote author=Taylor86 link=1286307105/0#3 date=1286315304]I thought the cap they put on benefits was a bit high, until I realised it was per household, rather than per person ;D
And if you're earning £44k I doubt you'd even notice the benefits were gone.
Just so you know I can't stand politics... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
I don't know how to tell you this, but it is per person. You don't pay tax by the household. You could be bringing in £86,000 and you would still recieve child benefit.
A single mum, recently been left by her husband to look after 4 kids, hold down a job and struggling to pay the mortgage would get nothing if she earned £44,100.
I don't care if you're a Tory, Labour or Raving Loony party the system doesn't work.
Kevinb, ever thought of running for parliment. I especially like your views on cats. [smiley=thumbsup.gif][/quote]
Me for parliment. I would skin every cat in the country and use the fur to make blankets for pensioners. That way you could get rid of the winter heating allowance and save loads. You could then give the meat away to feed the poor.[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
This would stop cats pooing in other peoples gardens and supermarkets could stock more beer as they wouldn't need a whole isle for cat food ;D
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i don't recall a Labour candidate even bothering to stand in Wiltshire!
Someone did stand in Chippenham but I think they came below the BNP.
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This would stop cats pooing in other peoples gardens and supermarkets could stock more beer as they wouldn't need a whole isle for cat food Grin
Where do I sign ;)
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The vast majority of parents in receipt of child benefit are not scroungers - in fact it is deducted from most state benefits before a final figure is awarded. Numerous contributors on this thread who do not have children take the view that family allowance should be scrapped. We should remember that none of us chose to have parents, but when they reach retirement, through our taxes we finance free bus passes, tv licences etc etc . And in every poll that has been conducted the majority of British people are against the wars in Iraq and afghanistan, so why should we fund them through are taxes?
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Originally Posted by monday21
The vast majority of parents in receipt of child benefit are not scroungers - in fact it is deducted from most state benefits before a final figure is awarded. Numerous contributors on this thread who do not have children take the view that family allowance should be scrapped. We should remember that none of us chose to have parents, but when they reach retirement, through our taxes we finance free bus passes, tv licences etc etc . And in every poll that has been conducted the majority of British people are against the wars in Iraq and afghanistan, so why should we fund them through are taxes?
You are right the vast majority aren't scroungers, but a sizeable minority of those on state-handouts are. Come to where i live, a couple just across the road with no-jobs are on their fifth kiddy. No sense of social responsibility, though they are a bit miffed as they won't get a maternity grant this time and the money they got for other four kept them in cider and fags.
Vote Labour: Each election win comes with a free war! (p.s. i support our troops, not nu-labour b-lox).
Lay off of the new government, they really can't do worse than the last shower-of-****e. :P
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Re: Tories shoot themselves in the foot
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Originally Posted by Mitch9128
Why do they make a big deal of him going to Eton? We should never be prejudiced against someone because of their upbringing - Blair had a privileged background, and rightly nothing was made of it.
btw the Daily Mail isn't perfect, but have you read the Daily Mirror? i picked one up in work a few weeks ago and thought i'd timewarped back to an 80s copy of that toilet paper otherwise known as the Morning Star. The Mirror must think the Unions are infallible.
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No no, not at all, i much prefer being governed by some toffy nosed Eton boy!
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No no, not at all, i much prefer being governed by some toffy nosed Eton boy!
I don't get it though, Blair's educational background was fairly similar - why snide Cameron for something he didn't choose?
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Originally Posted by monday21
The vast majority of parents in receipt of child benefit are not scroungers - in fact it is deducted from most state benefits before a final figure is awarded. Numerous contributors on this thread who do not have children take the view that family allowance should be scrapped. We should remember that none of us chose to have parents, but when they reach retirement, through our taxes we finance free bus passes, tv licences etc etc . And in every poll that has been conducted the majority of British people are against the wars in Iraq and afghanistan, so why should we fund them through are taxes?
I don't have kids and its not by choice its by the inability to have them not just being in a same sex relationship..... I do my job because I volunteered to join and serve this country as many would p1$$ and moan about it yet not stand up and be counted so if that means following a mindless prat to war and doing my duty like every other serviceperson we do it for our comrades for our families for our loved ones and the nation... not the politics and better to fight a war on their soil than ours.
A free war with every labour goverment? Did we forget that Maggie was the one who sent our boys to the slaughter with sub standard kit and no support from any allies in the South Atlantic in 1982 and I'm sure it was a Tory goverment during the first Gulf War too .... And many goverments served during the reign of terror in Northern Ireland yet it was a Labour WOMAN with Cancer who helped start any real peace process in the province.... God rest and sleep well Mo Mowlam, my local MP for my home town of Redcar.
I'd say the majority of members on here are hard working men and women of mostly working and middle class backgrounds.... tell me otherwise when we all have homes, cars and an expensive lifestyle love of motorcycles too.... I may be a Junior NCO in the Army but I live a life thats comfortable , everyone wants more as we live to our means and many greedy b@st@rds live above that and take the p1$$ sponging and fiddling benefits.....
Kaz is an NHS employee works her arse off for hardly the highest of wages either but then again public sector pensions is a blight to many right now and we face the prospect of something thats been paid into being cut massively by the goverment in cost cutting too .
Honestly .... If you can't afford something in the shops you wouldn't buy it and bring it home especially if it was going to cost you and keep costing you for well over 20 years would you ? Why have loads of kids as well then if you cannot afford to have them? There are far too many people who may want families and lots of kids but practically they cannot afford them so why should everyone else fund them ?
Same goes for people who come to work in UK and take off the NHS when they;ve put nothing in , why not make them take private health insurance and if their employers need their skill set so badly they can contribute towards their health insurance for 3 years until their NHS contributions have been paid for some time too ? Thats how the Germans do it, the employee pays a little the employer pays the rest of the krankenversicherung to the krankenkasse .
I'm a north east lass and was brought up Labour through and through working class lass from a working class background but I've worked hard for everything I have , serving this country for the last 18 years and watched it go to the dogs in many areas so if anyone has something to piss and moan about with regards to any goverment it should be their servants and theres many of us on here however we get on with it and you change things in the next poll.
Lisa :)
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Bloody hell. Is there no getting away from this "them and us" attitude? It's everywhere.
As Benjamin Franklin said "The only 3 things guarenteed in life are death, taxes and ALL polititians are c***s" ........unless Kevinb runs for office. I like his style.
