Welcome to 1984

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Originally Posted by Tina

I read the book but dont think Ive seen the film

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Oh they've made it into a book now ;D

Seriously though, that "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" argument is so flawed.
What happens when they suddenly bring in a law that makes you a criminal "for the greater good" I break the law everytime I ride with my visor and my end can. Am I hurting anyone? Doubtful, but all it takes is for an over zelous cam opperator and i'm in the sh*t.

I don't want to tread on Swanny's or Ken's toes but the government want you to live in fear so they can come to the rescue by penning us all in.

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If it helps protect me and my loved ones...and all of us then surely its not a bad thing.............If you have nothing to hide then shouldnt be a problem...if it can follow prospective terrorists etc then bloody good job too.
Ok so our privacy is lost but Id gladly give that up to be alive !!

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Now where have I heard that line of reasoning beore...

Ah! I remember - 1930's Germany, 1960's Uganda and 1970's Cambodia.
Not so bad then, eh? Everything turned out just peachy those times..........

Perhaps we need a reality check. There are many reasons why I have no trust or faith in the powers that be to adhere to surveillance guidelines or operate with transparency and honesty.

A couple of examples of how the state operates:

A newspaper hacked in to a murdered child’s phone and its editor’s regular dinner guest (a high ranking police officer) failed to investigate phone hacking.


Dept of Transport Jo Moore's memo, written at 2.55pm on September 11, when millions of people were transfixed by the terrible television images of the terrorist attack on the world trade centre in New York, said: "It is now a very good day to get out anything we want to bury. Councillors expenses?"

In light of the above I don’t think “Big Brother” would give a toss about respecting an individual’s basic rights.

Trust them at your peril

This is nothing new...

I've always hated cats, now I know why... :o

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Originally Posted by Mark_Able

I've always hated cats, now I know why... :o

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lol never had you down for a w**ker Mark. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

On a serious note, all the information they gleen from us is used for any number of things. At the moment it's used for marketing products, insurance claims, PPI claims and debt management. But what if, by following your movements, they start using it for other purposes? I hate the powers knowing my every move. As you say Ken, I don't trust THEM... >:(

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Originally Posted by Mitch9128

This is nothing new...

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;D ;D ;D

Dirty little git!!!!

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Originally Posted by Swanny

As you have nothing to hide you won't mind me reading the texts on your phone or your emails then???? After all you could be a terrorist ;)

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Are you a Journalist? & did you work for the News of the World...? ::)

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Originally Posted by GixxerStu

[quote author=Swanny link=1331920273/7#7 date=1331930773]As you have nothing to hide you won't mind me reading the texts on your phone or your emails then???? After all you could be a terrorist ;)

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Are you a Journalist? & did you work for the News of the World...? ::)[/quote]

I did hear a rumour that Rupert Murdoch hacked in to the mobile phones of the Glasgow Rangers players and topped them up with a tenner. :P ;D