I think we should start naming and shaming

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Originally Posted by spook

And its not just the ones pulling out. I had a guy run into the back of me last September then I stopped in the road to let a car out :-X That was the end of that bike.

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I don't ever let anyone out when riding. Too much risk of confusion. Also I don't want people expecting a bike to let them out, seeing the headlight on and thinking you've flashed them out. Had that happen before. Don't do it.

If you think they haven't seen you, SOUND YOUR HORN before it's too late. It's there as a warning, and will save your skin. Don't be embarressed. It's saved me more times than I care to remember... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Is it time for a 'loud pipes save lives' debate?? ;)

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Originally Posted by Nooj

Is it time for a 'loud pipes save lives' debate?? ;)

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thats something i definately agree with. i might cut mine down......more. lol

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I had a guy run into the back of me last September when I stopped in the road to let a car out

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My rule of thumb, is only be courteous if it doesn't put you at risk.

The right hand turning into my close at home is narrow (well a squeeze for a car plus bike).
When I take the right turn I now pull over to left to block cars from undertaking on my left.
They are quite happy to drive within 3 inches of my left leg as they are in a metal box, but I'm not happy with it so I make them wait a few seconds.

Safety comes before courtesy in my book.

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Originally Posted by jonnydangerous

sometimes you dont even see them...(3 weeks in a hospital, 5 broken bones, 3 puncture wounds, 6 operations (7th pending) and 6 pints of blood, and learning to walk on a dodgy leg again)....

my angel was with me that day, but theres no guarantees......

take care peeps, but dont let it spoil your biking... :-)

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you still ride?

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I had a guy run into the back of me last September when I stopped in the road to let a car out

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My rule of thumb, is only be courteous if it doesn't put you at risk.

The right hand turning into my close at home is narrow (well a squeeze for a car plus bike).
When I take the right turn I now pull over to left to block cars from undertaking on my left.
They are quite happy to drive within 3 inches of my left leg as they are in a metal box, but I'm not happy with it so I make them wait a few seconds.

I agree with your rule of thumb - If I am stationary and a car has been waiting to exit a side road onto a busy main drag I will always allow the driver time to join the traffic flow. I know how frustrating it can be to wait for ages to exit a side road during rush hour. It’s all about striking a balance between riding safely and being courteous to other road users. I am of the opinion that roundabouts would work much more efficiently if vehicles did not enter and negotiate them in the same way as they would a chicane on a racetrack.

Treat them like thier all out to get you and you cant go far wrong, that what my dad told me a long, long ,long time ago.
And he was a Policeman ;D

I've started calling it my 'Bikers Complex'

A typical example being:

"They haven't seen me, they haven't seen me, move out a bit, they've still not seen me, they're going to try and kill me, they're going to try and kill me, hellooooo I'm here, why aren't you looking at me, better move out a bit further, ready to brake............oh, they did see me" ;D

If you ride everywhere like that Loops, short of something really stupid happening like someone running a red light etc, then you should be around for many years of happy riding!