Halfords Chain Wax

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Originally Posted by Scotty

Your spanner can lubricate your chain???

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No, but it can adjust it! Something a scottoiler can't do...

Like I said, if it wporks for you then great. It's just my opinion. Just because I'm not a track day veteran, know how to take an engine apart, or ride a litre sports bike, doesn't mean I've only been riding 2 minutes. I've always looked after my own chain, since I had my first bike many years ago.

Riders who do 30k miles+ a year are a minority. Maybe it does work for them. But for your average rider, I can't see it adding much value. I'd be replacing my bike before I got to see the added value.

Lol, i've done 12k in the last 10 months, and despite having the bike on paddock stands at least once a month, i haven't had to adjust the chain once. Oh and i clean it with WD40...regularly.

Out of interest then, the scottoiler keeps the chain lubed, but how does it stop it stretching under load?

2p coming in...

Scottoiler / chainsaw oil is light enough to drop off the chain taking some of the dirt off with it, so there will be less crud on the rollers to grind down the sprocket teeth etc..reducing the need for cleaning..heavier chain lube will hold stuff there needing regualr claening.

FWIW, I just don't clean my chain every 600 or so, hence my scottoiler

and I'm out :)

My own theory is the constant applying of lube, which some is flung off, also flings off the dirt, so all that grit and nasty stuff doesn't turn into a ****ty grinding paste wearing your chain. Constantly having lube on the moving parts, stops wear and reduces stretch considerably, stretch isn't caused under load as such, as there should still be slack, it's rotating around the sprockets, which if it's all wet with lube, will wear significantly less. Make sense? If not ask Scottoiler, all i know is, they do work. Yes they mess your back end a bit, especially in winter when you turn them up. Yes they cost an initial outlay, but you get this back with reduced wear. They don't make you lazy, at all, as i still have the bike up, for a wash and fettle. It's the same as saying wd40 damages your chain. I didn't have one on my last bike, and despite constant lubing, i was getting 12k per C&S, but the bike before i did, and never changed the C&S.

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Originally Posted by njl

2p coming in...

Scottoiler / chainsaw oil is light enough to drop off the chain taking some of the dirt off with it, so there will be less crud on the rollers to grind down the sprocket teeth etc..reducing the need for cleaning..heavier chain lube will hold stuff there needing regualr claening.

FWIW, I just don't clean my chain every 600 or so, hence my scottoiler

and I'm out :)

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Pah, chicken, we haven't even started calling each other names yet ;)

That makes sense I guess. I suppose if you commute long distance, and don't get much time to look after your bike then it could be a good investment.

I just know when I looked at getting one many years ago for my RS125, I was advised that it wasn't necesary if I was regularly cleaning & maintaining my chain. I never bought one, and I never needed to replace the chain. But as I said, I never did 30,000 miles a year, nor do I now. Plus I'm quite fanatical about cleaning it hence getting so annoyed with the other chain lube finding its way to my clean back wheels all the time.

Do you find with it being a thinner oil, applied constantly, that you get much fling off? That's another thing the sales guy told me was an issue for some users...

I clean my bike in this weather about once a month, there is some spotting on the rear, but not noticeable really. It's childsplay to setup correctly, if you have it too high then of course it will be everywhere. The benefits far outweigh the negs, personally i think it's ridiculous that all bikes are not fitted with some automatic C&S lubing system, it would be ridiculous to think a car manufacturer would sell a car expecting us to lube and clean the drivechain regularly...Go on http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCOTTOILER-SCO...a09b90fe991e6b you know you want to.

What, and go back on everything I've just said? I'd look even more stupid then! ;)

Maybe if I end up with a commuter bike in years to come then I'll think about it. But for now I'll save my £80 and put it towards a new Arai, or some more track days (or the wedding if the missus gets her way)

For Gods sake you are all starting to sound like a stuck record. Scott Oiler, no Scott oiler WTF does it matter. If SF is happy with lubing cleaning then leave it be, if you others are happy with a Scott Oiler, let it be.

I feel like every other day I come on these damn forums as of late somone is having a go at someone for something, pack it the f^£k in and act like the adults you are MEANT TO ALL BE!