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Last Train
11-01-21, 02:34 PM
So HD have been upping their game and are trying to appeal to people other than their established market.
They've introduced a modular engine, DOHC & water cooled, a (dare i say it) modern ish engine.
They've already unveiled an Adventure bike, now these two.

Hardley SellingSon? (https://www.cycleworld.com/story/bikes/harley-davidson-cafe-racer-and-flat-tracker-coming-soon/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A%20Trending%20Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2WjEZ_BrVYnp70IbeR5H050kh_NY-1ckhtI7uSNYEzbwxUywv-H-e2iRo)

It's rumoured to be their last throw of the dice.
The general consensus on Buell forums is 'POS'
So, A triumphant sales winner & a company saviour or a final nail in the old dog's coffin.
What do you think ?

WR6133
11-01-21, 03:09 PM
I like the look of the flat tracker (aftermarket pipes needed). Wouldn't buy one though.

If they want(need) to expand their market they need to make fun, engaging, cheap(ish) bikes, a range of awesome starter bikes to get people started on brand loyalty. Punting out more expensive behemoths I don't think will work.

Dazr
11-01-21, 09:45 PM
Hmm not really for me they look box like, they need to change the styling more like the future models shown.

Badger-Roy
11-01-21, 10:07 PM
Dunno, it’s a difficult one, Harley owners are a strange lot and tend to get upset with change. Remember back in the early 90s when they brought out an aftershave and deodorant range, from what I gather the hard core harleyests (new word alert) went up the wall about it, screaming sell out, complaining it’s ruining the brand etc and it became a very expensive embarrassing public flop which actually cost them bike sales. I half think this will alienate the currant customers but in turn won’t bring in any new long term brand loyal customers so may keep them afloat short term but in the long term will push them over the edge to their doom.

As an almost interesting side note iv actually got 4 rare as rocking horse sh1t unopened cans of the Harley davidson “legendary free spray” body spray with the aftershaves that’s been gathering dust for 25+ years in the cupboard which iv been meaning to eBay. (Ok it wasn’t really that interesting :o)

BB
12-01-21, 11:05 AM
As an almost interesting side note iv actually got 4 rare as rocking horse sh1t unopened cans of the Harley davidson “legendary free spray” body spray with the aftershaves that’s been gathering dust for 25+ years in the cupboard which iv been meaning to eBay. (Ok it wasn’t really that interesting :o)

You really should declutter more often! ;)

BB
12-01-21, 11:12 AM
So HD have been upping their game and are trying to appeal to people other than their established market.
They've introduced a modular engine, DOHC & water cooled, a (dare i say it) modern ish engine.
They've already unveiled an Adventure bike, now these two.

Hardley SellingSon? (https://www.cycleworld.com/story/bikes/harley-davidson-cafe-racer-and-flat-tracker-coming-soon/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A%20Trending%20Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2WjEZ_BrVYnp70IbeR5H050kh_NY-1ckhtI7uSNYEzbwxUywv-H-e2iRo)

It's rumoured to be their last throw of the dice.
The general consensus on Buell forums is 'POS'
So, A triumphant sales winner & a company saviour or a final nail in the old dog's coffin.
What do you think ?

I do like the look of the black flat tracker, the single exhaust looks ok, the twin exhaust fugly. Still wouldn't buy one though. Sort of reminds me of something else but can't bring it to mind at present.

Badger-Roy
12-01-21, 12:46 PM
You really should declutter more often! ;)
Your not far wrong, I’m like a Womble, iv got so much useless crap.

BB
12-01-21, 04:57 PM
Your not far wrong, I’m like a Womble, iv got so much useless crap.

You and me both. I've been trying to downsize to a smaller house for the last four years or so! :rolleyes:

Wes
12-01-21, 09:27 PM
I suppose its a balance between staying current and trying not to water down the image too much. the cafe racer looks good, tho these were the main showpiece of many firms at various bike shows probably 2 to 3 years ago now.

wiltshire builders
17-01-21, 11:12 PM
I think this is going to be a huge disaster.
Flat trackers are supposed to be stripped down and powerful not big, heavy lumps.
And a cafe racer with handle bars?!
Harley have missed their audience on this one.