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LucasZxr600
27-02-19, 04:53 PM
Thinking of getting a blackbird 1300 .currently riding a zx6r .but love the looks of the blackbird.what are people's recommendations on them. cheers chris

Interlagos
27-02-19, 05:20 PM
http://www.wiltshirebikers.co.uk/showthread.php?41307-98-Super-Blackbird-Going-Cheep

Mitch9128
27-02-19, 05:25 PM
It's a Honda, so reg/rec, stator, cct, everything else should be fine, but be aware of linked brakes.

WR6133
27-02-19, 06:37 PM
Coming from a 6R handling will feel like a barge sailing through custard. However straight line speed and comfort will be mind blowing.

Mitch9128
27-02-19, 07:03 PM
Coming from a 6R handling will feel like a barge sailing through custard. However straight line speed and comfort will be mind blowing.

It doesn't have the agility, brakes or handling of a Fireblade, but that is about as wrong as you can get. I have rode a Blackbird, and though it was meaty, still went well when it picked it's skirts up, and more than well enough for road. The worst handling bike i ever rode, was a Bandit 600, like it had a carrier bag of dog**** hanging off each bar.

WR6133
27-02-19, 07:29 PM
but that is about as wrong as you can get.

How so? Admittedly I've not ridden the Blackbird but I have a ZZR1400 and a Busa, both compared to a supersport 600 handled like pigs.

Badger-Roy
27-02-19, 08:00 PM
Iv ridden busas, blackbirds and owned a few zzr11s, Iv also ridden and owned various 600 super sports and apart from the straight line speed the 600s were far more fun to ride as you really need to ride them, get the gear changes right etc,whereas on the big bikes you just use the throttle, don't matter what gear your in at what ever speed you just open the throttle and things get exciting REALLY quickly.
That said if I was to only be able to have one bike I'd go for a litre plus bike any day of the week just for that sicky scared/excited buzz you get from a litre plus bike when you red line it in every gear.

Wes
27-02-19, 08:04 PM
Ive ridden a 1100 Blackbird and found it was good at what it does, its not trying to be a Blade, its a well powered, comfortable bike, perfect for distance work, but equally at home around town. Just not a scratchers delight

Trev_P
27-02-19, 08:33 PM
Thinking of getting a blackbird 1300 .currently riding a zx6r .but love the looks of the blackbird.what are people's recommendations on them. cheers chris

A lot of old people ride em :p
So you thinking buying Burblers one ?
only thing i found with mine is that she shows her weight and lack of agility in tight twisties but then that reflects on what Mitch an Wes have said, the BB is no Fireblade and is not meant to be
as for the linked brakes the only time i notice any short comings is using the rear brake for stability in traffic etc as the front also comes on. other than that i dont mind them although i still brake as if they were "normal"

fragglepete
27-02-19, 08:53 PM
I had a 'bird for about a year a while back. The fact I kept it a year is telling how I got on with it. Can't fault the engine (always described as 'Turbine' like), handling was great when on the move (I found it a bit cumbersome around town). I didn't like the heat that came of the engine and found it thirsty on fuel for a bike. Also, I found the riding position too cramped. It came with bar risers on it ( a popular add-on), but I didn't like them and took them off which made it worse. I did the TT on mine which was fun. The journey back from Liverpool to Wiltshire late at night (arrived back in Liverpool just gone midnight) was just a blur - it just ate the miles but required that I topped it up in Liverpool and then again when I hit Cheltenham. Servicing with £20 per spark plug did make me wince a little.

Good bikes really but I just didn't get on with it. Glad I had one but don't miss it.

Pete

Mitch9128
28-02-19, 04:56 PM
Oops misread as they handle like a barge sailing through custard, not the compared to bit, sorry.

LucasZxr600
28-02-19, 06:28 PM
Not sure burbler still had his for sale looks nice when I seen it at Trowbridge McDonald's. Not sure on insurance and power .insurance might be a problem as I'm only 31 with 3 years no claims .and the point being if I can handle the thing lol😆.any one know how much a 2001 zx6r j2 is worth had 40000 miles but changed engine at 38000 .new engine has done 17500 miles now just changed oil and filter plugs airfilter etc

WR6133
28-02-19, 07:19 PM
any one know how much a 2001 zx6r j2 is worth

This one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-ZX6R-Ninja/223401262509?hash=item3403c0bdad:g:6HEAAOSwKxVcawz I auctioned at £1250. I'd ask £1450 ONO, wouldn't mention the engine change either unless asked.

That kind of bike you'd get a bit more for if you waited till the "season".

Trev_P
28-02-19, 07:31 PM
Not sure burbler still had his for sale looks nice when I seen it at Trowbridge McDonald's. Not sure on insurance and power .insurance might be a problem as I'm only 31 with 3 years no claims .and the point being if I can handle the thing lol.any one know how much a 2001 zx6r j2 is worth had 40000 miles but changed engine at 38000 .new engine has done 17500 miles now just changed oil and filter plugs airfilter etc

I'd drop ol Burbs a pm if i were you and definitely enquire on insurance, you may be pleasantly surprised else we will need to throw freezing water over you to get you revived from the shock :D

Interlagos
28-02-19, 07:43 PM
Larry can't log in. Has changed computer and lost e-mail + password details.

Has sent several mails to admin to no avail. He intends to re-register under another name.

Has told me he will swap the bird for the K + £200

GezTheHealer
28-02-19, 10:16 PM
I've ridden a Blackbird before. It felt like riding a great white shark, as in it was a big grey monster. When opening it up, it just kept going, awesomely fast and linear power. I didn't find it comfy, though that's relative as at the time I was used to a much more upright bike. Would probably get used to it, but quite tucked in position and a bit of a wide bike. Brakes were very good. Don't think there's much out there with more power for the money? Twin exhausts look meaty. Personally around a litre I'd be looking for something like a 2004 Kawasaki Z1000 (4 exhausts), or Triumph Speed Triple. That said the Honda Firestorms look nice... or a Fireblade is a classic. Or A Daytona 955i, or a Zx-9r...

GezTheHealer
28-02-19, 10:30 PM
... Then there's also the Fazer 1000; seems a sensible buy or an R1 surely wouldn't disappoint.

Makes sense to chat to burbler.

LucasZxr600
01-03-19, 12:15 AM
What year is honda any more pics please

Trev_P
01-03-19, 08:51 AM
I've ridden a Blackbird before. It felt like riding a great white shark, as in it was a big grey monster. When opening it up, it just kept going, awesomely fast and linear power. I didn't find it comfy, though that's relative as at the time I was used to a much more upright bike. Would probably get used to it, but quite tucked in position and a bit of a wide bike. Brakes were very good. Don't think there's much out there with more power for the money? Twin exhausts look meaty. Personally around a litre I'd be looking for something like a 2004 Kawasaki Z1000 (4 exhausts), or Triumph Speed Triple. That said the Honda Firestorms look nice... or a Fireblade is a classic. Or A Daytona 955i, or a Zx-9r...

What would you know, don't you ride a Puch Maxi lol :p:D;)
those of a more tender age will have to google that one :)

Trev_P
01-03-19, 09:02 AM
What year is honda any more pics please

if you mean the BB -
Production:1996–2007 (Carbed thru Fuel Injection+instrument changes) loads of pics on T' interweb

Interlagos
01-03-19, 09:23 AM
What year is honda any more pics please

98 Super Blackbird

48k - 6 month MoT - New PR4s - recent chain / sprockets - recent brake o/haul - new grips & pedal rubbers.

Very recent Motul oil / K & N filter

Recent coolant flush and change.

Proper colour too.

Age related dings and dongs but everything works. Starts, ticks over perfik and goes like ****.

£1950 collect Brizzle. Comes with free haynes manual .

Can deliver for £50 + tea + bikkies.

Badger-Roy
01-03-19, 09:29 AM
What would you know, don't you ride a Puch Maxi lol :p:D;)
those of a more tender age will have to google that one :)
I had a puch maxi when I was a "yoof". Id happily make room in the garage for one today as well as it was a fun little thing, I swapped it for a Honda c70 and regretted it the same day, the c70 was faster but not as fun to ride. Plus it was a PUCH which sounded exotic :D

Trev_P
01-03-19, 11:11 AM
I had a puch maxi when I was a "yoof". Id happily make room in the garage for one today as well as it was a fun little thing, I swapped it for a Honda c70 and regretted it the same day, the c70 was faster but not as fun to ride. Plus it was a PUCH which sounded exotic :D

yay another oldie lol :D:cool:

Burbler
01-03-19, 12:39 PM
What year is honda any more pics please

Boss sent me a password re-set code. Now back. Will find other pics

Burbler
01-03-19, 01:34 PM
Soory Luc, site won't accept uploads.

Trev_P
01-03-19, 01:35 PM
Boss sent me a password re-set code. Now back.

Welcome Back Burbs :D

Interlagos
01-03-19, 01:50 PM
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Interlagos
01-03-19, 01:51 PM
1516

Interlagos
01-03-19, 01:52 PM
Sussed it. Had to reduce the size but the site didn't tell me thet. Just said 'upload failed'.

Interlagos
01-03-19, 01:56 PM
1517

Badger-Roy
01-03-19, 05:35 PM
yay another oldie lol :D:cool:
il be 44 on the 13th, I really can't work out at what point I got so old, I'm still fighting the growing up part though :D

LucasZxr600
01-03-19, 06:13 PM
So after numerous quotes from insurance companies I can't afford a blackbird the cheapest I got was 1500 for the year sod that my ninja is only 200 for the year .so I have no idea where they got that price from .I'm 31 with 3 years no claims .does not make any sense .I guess insurance companies charge what they like? 😤

Badger-Roy
01-03-19, 06:48 PM
So after numerous quotes from insurance companies I can't afford a blackbird the cheapest I got was 1500 for the year sod that my ninja is only 200 for the year .so I have no idea where they got that price from .I'm 31 with 3 years no claims .does not make any sense .I guess insurance companies charge what they like? 
Get a quote on a zzr1100. Very similar performance, nicer to ride, slightly cheaper to buy, much nicer looking (IMO) and can put them on a classic policy.

LucasZxr600
01-03-19, 06:58 PM
Think I'm gonna stick with the zx6r for now save up me pennies for later date .maybe blackbird or busa for the future

Badger-Roy
01-03-19, 07:02 PM
Think I'm gonna stick with the zx6r for now save up me pennies for later date .maybe blackbird or busa for the future
The 6r is a fantastic bike in its own right, prob as much fun for day to day riding as a bird or a busa.

Last Train
01-03-19, 07:50 PM
£1500 !!

Crikey...


Get a quote on a zzr1100. Very similar performance, nicer to ride, slightly cheaper to buy, much nicer looking (IMO) and can put them on a classic policy.

Got to be worth a look :cool:

GezTheHealer
02-03-19, 08:16 AM
£1500 ouch. You’d likely get a better premium on a Puch Maxi. (Which I only wish I had Trev) Pedal start looks awesome.

Trev_P
02-03-19, 10:54 AM
£1500 ouch. You’d likely get a better premium on a Puch Maxi. (Which I only wish I had Trev) Pedal start looks awesome.
:D

WR6133
02-03-19, 11:02 AM
1500 for the year

That seems a bit crazy..... do you live in a very high motor crime area?

I insured a GSXR1000 (also an insurance group 16 bike) at about that age and with similar no claims and it cost me £115 third party fire and theft for the first year!

LucasZxr600
02-03-19, 11:23 AM
I dunno .must do according to insurance company 😕

WR6133
02-03-19, 11:36 AM
Maybe play around with the details for insurance, clear cookies and use an incognito window get quotes using a made up name and nearby address when you find the winning combo redo it in a normal window with real name and address.

I just got this using a random melksham address, 31 year old, 3 years no claims, no security declared, garaged overnight.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7891/40290762543_8f44f64466_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24omFZH)bb (https://flic.kr/p/24omFZH) by Chris Wright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154685803@N07/), on Flickr

LucasZxr600
02-03-19, 12:33 PM
OK I'll try.thanks wr only problem is that it won't be garaged overnight