Moving from a 600cc to a 1000cc

[LucasZxr600]

Hey all would like some advice on moving from a 600cc to 1000cc i have my eye set on a 2001 aprilia rsv1000 mille any do's and dont'sand what to look out for on them.apprciate the advice cheers chris

[BB]

Don't be seduced by cc's make sure it's what you want to move to and not because 'everyone else has one'

Test ride what you think you want and what you think you may dismiss, you may be surprised.

BTW you can has much fun if not more on less cc's - unless you plan on dragging up and down motorways of course, but that isn't what biking is all about. :cool:

[Last Train]

Don't be seduced by cc's make sure it's what you want to move to and not because 'everyone else has one'

Test ride what you think you want and what you think you may dismiss, you may be surprised.

BTW you can has much fun if not more on less cc's - unless you plan on dragging up and down motorways of course, but that isn't what biking is all about. :cool:

^^

Yeah that :)

But having said that...

If you've got an itch, you have to scratch it

:cool:

[Badger-Roy]

^^

Yeah that :)

But having said that...

If you've got an itch, you have to scratch it

:cool:
or see a doctor;)

[DC]

or see a doctor;)

I don't think a Doctor can treat what we've got , and even they could , I refuse to be fixed ! :rolleyes:

[BB]

^^

Yeah that :)

But having said that...

If you've got an itch, you have to scratch it

:cool:

Agreed, as you know, I've scratched my itch quite a bit over the years :p just don't be pressured into getting something you don't actually want.


I don't think a Doctor can treat what we've got , and even they could , I refuse to be fixed ! :rolleyes:

Too right, incurable and don't want to be cured of my addiction! :cool:

[Badger-Roy]

I don't think a Doctor can treat what we've got , and even they could , I refuse to be fixed ! :rolleyes:
Amen to that :)

[Badger-Roy]

Agreed, as you know, I've scratched my itch quite a bit over the years :p
ooer mrs ;)

[Dabz]

Same as others have said, bigger ccs doesn’t mean more fun. Having gone 600 to 1200, back to 1000, the most fun for me personally is definitely in the 600 Range. 675 all the way now!

[BB]

ooer mrs ;)

and have the scars emotional & physical to prove it lol:p

[BB]

Same as others have said, bigger ccs doesn’t mean more fun. Having gone 600 to 1200, back to 1000, the most fun for me personally is definitely in the 600 Range. 675 all the way now!

:cool:

[LucasZxr600]

Ok thanks guys ill think i stick to my 600 for a few more years

[DC]

Hey all would like some advice on moving from a 600cc to 1000cc i have my eye set on a 2001 aprilia rsv1000 mille any do's and dont'sand what to look out for on them.apprciate the advice cheers chris


I would start by having a look on here , http://apriliarsv.com/ and see what sort of foibles you're likely to encounter owning an RSV .

[Scotty]

Having ridden big sports bikes on the road for over 30 years I’m fairly qualified to say that they’re utterly pointless (but also amazing fun, until you get it wrong) - they are impractical and largely uncomfortable, and the worst thing about them is that their very ethos and purpose and their damned competence at it goad you into riding far too fast on the roads. It’s far too easy to end up travelling way more quickly than you should and it’s a proper honey trap for less experienced riders.
That said, it’s an itch that needs to be scratched and I indulged myself for over three decades and largely got away with it. Nowadays there’s the outlet of trackdays where one can ride fast in relative safety and if you’re set on getting a big sports bike I’d recommend heading there with it rather than the roads. For various reasons I can’t do sports bikes any more so I’ve moved to hooligan bikes and to be honest I’m glad of it - the fun happens at sub-100mph speeds so both life and licence are safer. Probably the most fun road bike you can buy is a Triumph Street Triple - give one a try. Just about equally fun is a KTM SuperDuke (one of which happens to be on the For Sale board at the moment, ahem), or if you want to go the Aprilia way maybe consider a Tuono.

[Arek]

The other point of view. I love 1000 :-) It is enough punchy and nimble on corners, not quite 600, but I can have a lot of fun on it. But in the terms of a comfort ride I'd say 1000 is better. Much more torque make me lazy :-) Can use 6th gear from 30mph onwards. had 750 before (and many, many more, but lets stick to recent one) with very similar power 750=126bhp vs 1000=145bhp so not big difference, but I don't have to keep high revs on my 1000, and don't have to switch gears so often.
But everyone is different, so test it before buy.

[njl]

As you mentioned the RSV as a target, I will add to the topic that a twin tends to ride quite differently to an inline 4, my take on the differences is that the crazy top end power that a 4 gives up the rev range isn't there in the same way from a v twin but you do have lots of lower down torque to play with instead.

[Burbler]

As you mentioned the RSV as a target, I will add to the topic that a twin tends to ride quite differently to an inline 4, my take on the differences is that the crazy top end power that a 4 gives up the rev range isn't there in the same way from a v twin but you do have lots of lower down torque to play with instead.

...and a triple gives you the best of both - has to be yellow though.

[wiltshire builders]

As you mentioned the RSV as a target, I will add to the topic that a twin tends to ride quite differently to an inline 4, my take on the differences is that the crazy top end power that a 4 gives up the rev range isn't there in the same way from a v twin but you do have lots of lower down torque to play with instead.

I can't believe it's taken 2 pages before someone pointed it out.
As said above, the main noticable difference between your current bike and the RSV is the cylinders. A twin feels lazier and less frantic than an in line 4 and is easier to hold a neutral throttle because there's less power surge.
Similar to the difference between a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke motocross bike.
If you do go for a Mille, get the Factory. I road one around the Isle of Man and it was smoother than a Cashmere Codpiece.
They're really good value for money and as a result seem to be the track day weapon of choice.

[WR6133]

As long as you can get on with riding a twin I would have thought it's a good move. BHP they are similar to a 750cc inline 4 (more torque than the 750 though), so a logical step up.

Prices seem really keen too. Bikes on ebay with under 20k miles on them asking £2000

[GezTheHealer]

If your not so keen now on the Aprillia have you considered a ss100 brough superior? Though you may need to take out a mortgage, it will probably go up in value and is also a 1000cc v-twin... http://www.motocorsa.co.uk/brough_superior_range.php £60,000 ... tempted?

[LucasZxr600]

Thanks for all your comments and advice guys but im gonna stick with my zx6r for a few more years .although i do like the rsv 1000 mille i probally wont be able to handle it lol 😕

[BB]

If your not so keen now on the Aprillia have you considered a ss100 brough superior? Though you may need to take out a mortgage, it will probably go up in value and is also a 1000cc v-twin... http://www.motocorsa.co.uk/brough_superior_range.php £60,000 ... tempted?


too many zero's? lol :p

[BB]

Thanks for all your comments and advice guys but im gonna stick with my zx6r for a few more years .although i do like the rsv 1000 mille i probally wont be able to handle it lol 

The throttle works both ways :cool:

[Badger-Roy]

I rode an R1 3 days after passing my test and a hayabusa the following month and I'm pretty certain I survived, why? Because I respected the bike and didnt just expect to jump on and ride like foggy. My 1st bike after passing my test was a Kawasaki z750 (I'd never owned a bike before taking my test) and 2nd bike was a zzr1100, I used my brain, didn't ride like a loon (not a complete loon anyway) and all was good in the world as I learned to ride a powerful bike.

All that said Iv owned a lot of bikes (ALOT) and having riden both 1000cc+ and 600cc I have to say the 6s in general were more fun bikes to ride as you had to really ride them whereas with the liters you just open the throttle and everything gets blurry and fast.

What I think I'm saying in a long winded and protacted way is don't expect to have more fun just because your on a litre bike but at the same time don't be worried about riding one as long as you don't ride faster than your current skill set.

Rule number 1: Your right hand controls the speed NOT the bike.

[LucasZxr600]

Very true 😊

[Burbler]

My first bike after 35 years of abstinence was a 12 y.o.Honda CB 500 S which cost £750.

It could do 110 mph, 0-60 just over 4 secs and (after putting on a +2 front sprocket) was happy all day at m-way speeds.

When I swapped for the 955i, whilst being bigger, heavier, faster etc. the transition was seamless. No problem whatsoever.

It's all in the ass and the right wrist.

[Burbler]

Addendum...dum, dum...Dum, Dum...

My very first ride on the yellow peril was from the seller, in S. Wales, back to Bristol.

High winds, horizontal rain and over the Severn Bridge. Baptism of fire, but it worked.

[Dazr]

I returned to biking back in 2011 taking the direct access route, first bike was an R6 then another R6, followed by an BMW S1000rr. Now on a KTM Supreduke 1290, biggest difference for me was moving from inline 4 to the V twin. SO much engine braking and throttle control in the bends on the V Twin.
Like others have said you control the throttle, you will know when it feels right to move from 600 to 1000. The difference for me between the R6 and S1000rr, the 600 was more high revving and the S1000rr felt smoother for whats its worth.

[Jon_W]

One is not better than the other. My advice is think about what you want.

I love riding the 10bhp tiger cub through the lanes, far more fun than the Crosstourer. However for touring, I know which I would use!

One of the best fun rides I have done in recent years was riding the G650GS two up on the west bay run! Massively under powered but hilarious to ride and very involving.