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Dan
21-08-14, 10:01 PM
Got a nail in the rear tyre of my 9r, got the wheel off and will be phoning a few places tomorrow to see who will plug the tyre as it's nearly new. Anyone know if bike treads offer this?

Burbler
22-08-14, 08:42 AM
Bite the wallet...new tyre the best.

WhyNot
22-08-14, 08:50 AM
I agree with Burbler, your mental if you repair it, nearly new or not

Grey haired bloke
22-08-14, 10:44 AM
Hi Dan, Bike Treads do offer this service, dependent on where the nail is of course.
I've had two tyres plugged in the past, never had a problem with them after, is there a good reason not to or is it a case of 'rumour has it' or 'my mate down the pub heard about this bloke who........... ?

WR6133
22-08-14, 01:11 PM
I've had two tyres plugged in the past, never had a problem with them after, is there a good reason not to or is it a case of 'rumour has it' or 'my mate down the pub heard about this bloke who........... ?

I think it's the rumour thing, that said I wouldn't want to ride on a plugged tyre on a bike that will be regularly doing over a ton. I have no logic or fact to back that view up though just that tyres and brakes are the only 2 things I won't happily bodge.

WhyNot
22-08-14, 03:08 PM
I think it's the rumour thing,

That and the fact that tyres aren't designed or testing when they have holes in them, I personally wouldn't want to be going round a long bend at 90 to have the thing pop on me

Dan
22-08-14, 06:42 PM
They've done it for £15. Quick, easy service.

I shelled out a lot for this bike to have an enjoyable summer's riding, the next day the headgasket went and I've put over £300 into various parts that have popped up during the rebuild. I do not have the cash for a new tyre.

Did a fair amount of research into the plug vs replace argument, and a lot of sports bike track racers plug tyres and use them until they die naturally. Never once seen an account of a tyre going pop, just lots of people warning it will happen....

I also don't push my bike at all. Very rarely will it even see over a ton. I don't have a 900cc for being able to do 150mph, but more for the pleasure of knowing I could if I wanted to.

Would reputable companies really risk their names if they weren't totally satisfied with the result? If a tyre blew out at 120mph and the rider died, and it could be linked back to an insufficiently repaired tyre, that would seriously affect business.

BifferGaz
22-08-14, 07:22 PM
Wouldn't risk it. Get a new one. Better losing a few quid than anything more important

Conehead
22-08-14, 07:34 PM
Not every one has the money for new. If I had a puncture I will get it plugged if I can as have NEVER come across a story of it going wrong.

Dan
23-08-14, 09:03 PM
Picked it up today. Spoke to the receptionist who said they've never had a single repair come back. Apparently repairing them is far more common-place than you'd think.

wheelers
23-08-14, 09:54 PM
the only repair we trust on a big bike is a vulcanised one, they go to a specialist take a week and cost £40. Im sure no one would tell you if they had one fail, it wouldn't be good for business , would it? that said the vulcanised repair is only recommended on specific areas. Melksham tyres advise if a repair is possible or not.
its your potential accident, its up to you when you can get a pair new for £130

Rabb
25-08-14, 08:07 AM
I've used Z rated plugged tyres without a problem.
Indeed it lasted for the rest of it's natural life (400 + miles a week)
If it's done properly - it should be OK but, remember that it has a weekness now and needs to be treated with more care than a completely sound tyre.
I have heard in the past of a tyre that was used to the end that had 16 plug repairs in it.

SupeRDel
25-08-14, 09:24 AM
Glad my 400 runs with tubes in.............

BikeTreads
04-10-14, 06:00 PM
Hey all, thought we would wade in here with our opinion on puncture repairs and some Tyre manufacturer specific info

1st off we do indeed carry out puncture repairs, the cost for this service is £15 to a loose wheel or £25 if you ride your bike in
As for the actual repair to tubeless tyres, it comes down to the size of the hole being repaired, where about's in the tyre the puncture is and how much damage if any the object has caused inside the tyre.
The process if repairing is very straight forward, after removal of the tyre, it is inspected both inside and out for visible damage and secondary damage that can be caused by running the tyre flat
If all is ok then the hole is reamed out to just under 6mm using the correct tool, the area around the hole on this inside is then cleaned of any white chalk and buffed back to leave a slightly rough texture to allow the repair to bond correctly, special glue is then applied and allowed to cure until tacky to the touch, then a mushroom plug is pulled through from the inside and using a tyre stitched it is rolled onto the glue forcing any air out and firmly bonding it to the tyre. we then apply a coat of the same glue over the top of the whole repair to add an extra layer to fully seal the repair(this is not necessary but just gives us piece of mind) All is then refitted to the wheel and inflated to the correct pressure and finally we cut the part the plug that protrudes through level with the tread.....

We will not repair tyres we feel are beyond the repair specs and of the hundreds of repairs we carry out every year we get maybe 0.1% that fail, and when they fail the tyre does destroy it self, it does not fall apart it simply looses air the same before the repair(albeit a lot slower as it now has a plug in it)
The plug it self is shaped like a mushroom, it has a round head at one end, approx 25mm wide and this is the part that repairs the inner part of the tyre(the part that holds the air in) attached to the head is a long stem that is used to pull the repair through, this serves 2 purposes, 1 of which is to plug the hole, the second is to pull the repair securely to the inside of the tyre...

Have a look at the link below for Michelins guide lines on repairs to their tyres
http://moto.michelin.co.uk/advice/faq/about-tyre-wear-maintenance-and-repair

All tyre manufacturers have their own guide lines on repairs to their tyres and if they even allow them to be repaired(this is for warranty purposes)
We then repair in accordance with legislation

Sorry if this is a little long winded but we want to make it as clear as possible so you can choose if you repair or replace your tyre with as much information as possible.
Either way we are able to repair if you need and if not we can replace your tyre, we carry a very wide range in stock

Dan
07-10-14, 09:29 PM
The tyre repair bike treads has held up - shame the rest of the bike hasn't!

WR6133
07-10-14, 09:31 PM
It's died again?

Burbler
07-10-14, 11:14 PM
Hey all, thought we would wade in here with our opinion on puncture repairs and some Tyre manufacturer specific info

{Large Snip}

Sorry if this is a little long winded but we want to make it as clear as possible so you can choose if you repair or replace your tyre with as much information as possible.


Not long winded at all for me. Excellent info on a widely mis-understood subject.

Thanks.

Dan
11-10-14, 01:59 PM
It's died again?

Yes :( pops the main 30a fuse as soon as you turn the key. Ran out of patience with it.

WR6133
11-10-14, 07:48 PM
Yes :( pops the main 30a fuse as soon as you turn the key. Ran out of patience with it.

Give you £20 and a spark plug for it!

Guessing a bad earth somewhere. Maybe pinched a wire somewhere when you put it back together?

Dan
13-10-14, 09:35 PM
Having my sister and a crying baby in the house over the weekend lead me to dig the bike out after a month of ignoring it..

http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q679/artois7/IMAG0448_zps71ae1546.jpg (http://s1353.photobucket.com/user/artois7/media/IMAG0448_zps71ae1546.jpg.html)

This is the main earth for the entire wiring loom. Broken, burnt and tucked away behind the rear brake reservoir.

Can't find the rest of that cable though.......

wheelers
14-10-14, 12:26 PM
if thats maiin earth should be on a ring connector to the battery. arcing out is what was blowing fuses