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Nooj
13-11-13, 05:04 PM
Anyone on here sit on Wiltshire Council??

http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/grassroots/2013/11/wiltshire-councillors-vote-big-pay-increase.html#

Swanny
13-11-13, 05:08 PM
Just weeks after making 252 council staff redundant, Wiltshire councillors have voted themselves a whopping increase in their taxpayer funded allowances.

Rubbing salt into their wounds

WR6133
13-11-13, 05:27 PM
Tidworth Parish Council winds me up. Our council tax goes up year on year and the increase is those self serving, jobsworth tosspots. Not even sure what the point of a parish council is beyond a few lining their own pockets

wiltshire builders
13-11-13, 07:35 PM
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
How do I get a job where I can vote on my pay cheque?

redken1
13-11-13, 07:59 PM
I think it is important to distinguish between the different tiers of local government and not be tempted into slotting them all into the same pigeon hole. Parish/Town Councils in England are the first tier of local government giving people a say at a very local level on proposals which affect them and are often at the heart of a thriving local community, forming a key part of the democratic process. As a democratic socialist I believe any statuary body which devolves power away from the centralized bureaucrats who don’t understand the concerns of local people has got to be a good thing. Councillors who serve on Parish/Town councils are elected by the parishioners who reside within its boundaries and are registered on the electoral role. Concillors are not paid, but they can claim allowances/expenses in certain circumstances, most do not however. Just wanted to clear that up to avoid any misunderstanding.

With reference to the original post, I think the ‘we are all in this together’ club has a smaller fan-base than the mobsters which claim to be, ‘looking after your world’:mad:

Snowy
13-11-13, 08:30 PM
Tidworth Parish Council winds me up. Our council tax goes up year on year and the increase is those self serving, jobsworth tosspots. Not even sure what the point of a parish council is beyond a few lining their own pockets

The Council Tax has been frozen for several years now. Expect the same next year. Wiltshire Council collects not the town or parish councils.

redken1
13-11-13, 08:45 PM
The Council Tax has been frozen for several years now. Expect the same next year. Wiltshire Council collects not the town or parish councils.

That is not entirely true. County Councils set the annual charges, but only after consultation with the other stakeholders such as the lower tiers of local government and the police authorities in most cases. Collection is carried out on their behalf by the following;


In England,326 councils collect council
tax:
201 district councils
33 London boroughs
36 metropolitan district councils
56 unitary authorities
County councils do not collect council
tax themselves

Mendip collects ours

WR6133
13-11-13, 08:47 PM
The Council Tax has been frozen for several years now. Expect the same next year. Wiltshire Council collects not the town or parish councils.

No ours in Tidworth has increased yearly and the increase everytime is listed as the Parish council, it is collected by Wiltshire council but the Parish council has a part in that, that being the only part that has increased (it clearly shown in the booklet explaining how it breaks down).

I'm very cynical of our parish council a read of their records/expenditure shows suspicion that they are as honest as a 3 pence coin.

Snowy
13-11-13, 08:50 PM
That is not entirely true. County Councils set the annual charges, but only after consultation with the other stakeholders such as the lower tiers of local government and the police authorities in most cases. Collection is carried out on their behalf by the following;


In England,326 councils collect council
tax:
201 district councils
33 London boroughs
36 metropolitan district councils
56 unitary authorities
County councils do not collect council
tax themselves

Mendip collects ours

Ken, all I know is my CT hasn't changed for two years and my Direct Debit payment goes to Wiltshire Council. From then of course it gets distributed to the various parties etc etc. Now get back to the footie ;)

redken1
13-11-13, 08:53 PM
No ours in Tidworth has increased yearly and the increase everytime is listed as the Parish council, it is collected by Wiltshire council but the Parish council has a part in that, that being the only part that has increased (it clearly shown in the booklet explaining how it breaks down).

I'm very cynical of our parish council a read of their records/expenditure shows suspicion that they are as honest as a 3 pence coin.

Along with the other recipient bodies of council tax budgets The Parish council submit their request to Wiltshire and they take the decision to set the charge based on the information provided. Have you challenged the treasurer of Tidworth Parish Council regarding your serious allegation? And if so what was there response?

redken1
13-11-13, 09:00 PM
Sorry Graeme I just don't understand why Somerset Council does not collect ours not that it really matters. Anyway I was just trying to clear up the apparent misunderstanding that Parish councillors received payment. Back to the footie then Lol;)

Snowy
13-11-13, 09:10 PM
No ours in Tidworth has increased yearly and the increase everytime is listed as the Parish council, it is collected by Wiltshire council but the Parish council has a part in that, that being the only part that has increased (it clearly shown in the booklet explaining how it breaks down).

I'm very cynical of our parish council a read of their records/expenditure shows suspicion that they are as honest as a 3 pence coin.

Are you sure your overall Council Tax payment has increased rather than the individual percentages of where it goes? Mine hasn't and I'm local to you

Details here:

http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/counciltaxhousingandbenefits/counciltax/ctaxhowisitspent.htm

Its been frozen for three years.

WR6133
13-11-13, 09:23 PM
Are you sure your overall Council Tax payment has increased rather than the individual percentages of where it goes? Mine hasn't and I'm local to you

Details here:

http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/counciltaxhousingandbenefits/counciltax/ctaxhowisitspent.htm

Its been frozen for three years.

Yes its gone up and I pay more than the quoted amount for my band in that link.

Snowy
13-11-13, 09:34 PM
Yes its gone up and I pay more than the quoted amount for my band in that link.

Sounds to me like you have a good case for a rebate then....

redken1
13-11-13, 09:49 PM
Graeme, please accept my apologies for correcting you earlier, I did not realise that Wiltshire is a unitary and not a County Council which now explains why I was confused (not very hard). I take it you have no district council in your area then?

Snowy
13-11-13, 10:12 PM
No, the 4 districts and the County Council merged in April '09 to form a Unitary.

Still separate though is Swindon Borough Council.