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Goldie
04-04-13, 04:57 PM
Battery is a year old, I can leave my bike standing 4-6 weeks and it starts without issue usually. Rode it 120 miles on Good Friday and it was fine. I haven't touched it apart from lubing the chain, went to ride it Wednesday and it's dead.

Clock lights are coming on, but the start button is unresponsive.
I have tried the kill switch, obviously, and had the battery on an optimiser for 24 hrs and still nada.

I'm such a girl - what do I try next please? I am 98% pissed off :(

Wes
04-04-13, 05:15 PM
When you press the starter, does it make a clicking noise? just because the battery is only one yr old doesn't mean that it is still working correctly, i mean it should do, but its been particularly cold and this may be a contributing factor.
The battery could be showing a full charge, but still not making enough power to start the bike, or it might not be the battery at all, do you have an immobilizer fitted?

Splash
04-04-13, 05:28 PM
Just going to get it out there... is it definitely in neutral? I don't mean to sound abrupt, don't just check the N light on the dash but push it forward to doubly check... :)

I did this yesterday when leaving work... highly amusing to myself!

Goldie
04-04-13, 05:29 PM
No clicking sound wezzy, no sound at all. There is no immobiliser fitted either. Maybe worth getting a new battery, just as a process of elimination, where the hell am I meant to get one of those!?

Yes, it's defo in neutral - I wheeled the bloody thing up the drive before trying to start it and I've checked it 50 times already :)

Swanny
04-04-13, 05:34 PM
**Edit**

Was going to offer you the use of an optimiser but I see you've already tried that.

Wes
04-04-13, 05:48 PM
I did have something very similar happen with the blade, ended up getting a new battery but also a new regulator/rectifier as it was this that was killing the battery, boiled the last one!! Reg/rec problems are a common fault with earlier blades, maybe the hornet too, im not sure.

Toph
04-04-13, 06:04 PM
I'm no whizz at bike mechanics, you need Greenman to comment on this.. but does your electrics (horn, lights, brake light) all still work? then the battery is still charged.. sounds like something is cutting the ignition. have you tried bump starting it?? and have you tried starting it with the sidestand up.. there is usually killswitch on the sidestand.. but usually only cuts the ignition if the bike is in gear and stand down.
Apart form that... I'm clueless!! lol

Goldie
04-04-13, 06:09 PM
Thanks Wes, I heard the same.
Chris, Colin suggested it was my parking lights on my FB but I don't have any. Electrics are still working, etc and it makes no difference whether the stand is up or not, in gear, clutch in or out or not too - still nada. Only thing I haven't tried is bumping it - I live on a sloping drive and it's too frikking heavy for me to try tbh.
Gonna go see what the battery is reading at now, effing bikes are great til they go wrong and I'm too much of a girl to know wtf I'm looking at haha

alanTDM
04-04-13, 06:17 PM
Might be the starter relay, if that is working ok and the battery is nearly flat it will make a buzzing noise or a fast clicking when you push the starter button.If the battery is fully charged and starter dont work check the Starter relay solinoid.Some have fuses on top if one blows relay wont work.

Goldie
04-04-13, 06:23 PM
there is no sound coming from anywhere, it's silent :( I'll see if I can find the fuses, cheers


edit: checked fuses, all fine.

919honda
04-04-13, 06:37 PM
Hi Goldie,

I have owned 5 Hornet 600,s ,,

You need to get out a multimeter and take some readings , it is known for the reg/rec to cause issues on the hornet 6,

Goldie
04-04-13, 06:47 PM
Hi Goldie,

I have owned 5 Hornet 600,s ,,

You need to get out a multimeter and take some readings , it is known for the reg/rec to cause issues on the hornet 6,

cheers, I haven't got one, I'll try and get hold of one over the weekend. Thanks again. :)

napalm
04-04-13, 09:01 PM
I know it's been mentioned already, but it could easily be the side stand or clutch switch. I'm no mechanic or sparky but, as I undersatnd it, if either are broken and cutting the power, pulling the clutch or upping the stand will make no difference? Apologies if I'm talking nonsense!

Conehead
04-04-13, 09:25 PM
Have you got fuel?

OK, Ill go now.

Personally I would get the Reg/rec checked.

Jon_W
05-04-13, 08:03 AM
Sounds like it could be a dicky starter switch. Had this on the GS, exactly the same symptoms.

bigpete
05-04-13, 10:10 AM
no expert but i'd go with regulator/rectifier... CBF's are known for this, know that from experience, have heard of similar from other handas too. Maybe try looking on the hornet forum to see if anyone else has had similar problems.

Mikkie1986
05-04-13, 10:37 AM
Mmmmm

Try the kill and starter switch a few times.. They can get stuck. Just had it on the SP.

Mikkie1986
05-04-13, 10:43 AM
Silly question but you have checked the terminal connections are tight?

Dan505
05-04-13, 01:00 PM
Where abouts in Nam are you?

Goldie
05-04-13, 01:43 PM
by sainsos and maccy d's.
Gary is coming over later to have a poke around, just to check i'm not going mad haha

Goldie
05-04-13, 06:02 PM
Mmmmm

Try the kill and starter switch a few times.. They can get stuck. Just had it on the SP.


Sounds like it could be a dicky starter switch. Had this on the GS, exactly the same symptoms.


Hit the nail on the head, I just held the starter switch in and flicked the kill switch a few times and it eventually fired up no problem. Cheers for your help, guys :D

Dan505
05-04-13, 10:12 PM
fair enough, pleased its sorted. You clean it often? try hitting the kill switch everytime you park it that eay it will get regular use and shouldn't jam again.

Red Zed 1
07-04-13, 09:27 AM
just a thought ..have you checked the clutch switch,,i had the same problem on my gpz1100,tried fiddling with kill/starter switches and usually started,however one day it didn't so investigated with wiring diagram and found it was an intermittent sticking clutch switch which had finally failed..switch is to stop you pulling away with stand down but on my bike was also part of the starter circuit,new switch fitted no problems since on mine

NiteW4tcher
07-04-13, 12:44 PM
looking like a your starter relay has gone....... even with a dead battery you would get some kind of click from the starter. can you jump start it? if you can jump it from another source get it running and put a multimeter across the battery to see if your charging system is working.....your looking for around 14v. if not then your regulator/rectifier (and worse case stator) needs replac.ive had 2 of these pop on my gixxer. a bad reg/rec can boil your battery.

Dan

NiteW4tcher
07-04-13, 12:44 PM
oooohh loads pl posted before that LOL