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A13X4ND7A
15-11-12, 09:14 AM
I have a question, Your riding along a 60 road and an ambulance/police/fire engine etc comes up with its lights flashing.
In a car, Id put my indicator on to pull over and stop.

If there is nothing in front of you, do you pull over and stop, or pull to the side and slow down but keep going at a lower speed?

I was riding along 2 days ago and thought of this, then yesterday, ironically, on the same bit of road I could see an ambulance coming so when It got closer I pulled over and stopped to let it past, but another motorcyclist I could see ahead just pulled and went at a slower speed, and then sped up and followed him overtaking the cars that had pulled in.

Don't want to get in bad habits and rather do the right thing. :)

Mitch9128
15-11-12, 09:22 AM
You're riding a bike, and an ambulance caught up with you? I guess you must be on a 125 then, if so whatever is safe to do, there is no hard and fast rule, pull over or go slower, neither is right. Depends on terrain and circumstances.

Gooz
15-11-12, 09:26 AM
Read the road your on alex, I used to drive blue light, the worst possible thing was people just stopping dead where it wasnt safe for us to pass, we could normally pass bikes but fairness they didnt tend to hold us up much, cars stopping hinders progress in hte wrong area, we would much rather people carried on making progress until we could choose to pass, Im not sure whats being taught nowadays as everyone seems to stop dead.

A13X4ND7A
15-11-12, 09:35 AM
I was taught in a car that you should pull over and stop if its safe to do so and basically just get out the way. That was 12 years ago now though. Perhaps its different these days.

Yes Im on a 125. I was doing 60, It was in the dark on the A36. Plenty of room for him to go past because there was nothing coming but I wasnt sure If I stopped or just slowed down.

Just curious as to what was the better thing to do, I wouldn't stop if its not safe but I wasn't sure what the exact rules were, just in case when I do my test in the future it happened really.

NiteW4tcher
15-11-12, 09:37 AM
all depends on the circumstances at the time :)

A13X4ND7A
15-11-12, 09:41 AM
oky doky, thanks guys. I will remember that and implement the correct manoeuvre for the circumstance next time :)

QB1
15-11-12, 09:54 AM
I'm going to sound like a geek now but the Highway Code actually has some sensible guidance on this it says -

... You should look and listen for ambulances, fire engines, police, doctors or other emergency vehicles using flashing blue, red or green lights and sirens or flashing headlights, or Highways Agency Traffic Officer and Incident Support vehicles using flashing amber lights. When one approaches do not panic. Consider the route of such a vehicle and take appropriate action to let it pass, while complying with all traffic signs. If necessary, pull to the side of the road and stop, but try to avoid stopping before the brow of a hill, a bend or narrow section of road. Do not endanger yourself, other road users or pedestrians and avoid mounting the kerb. Do not brake harshly on approach to a junction or roundabout, as a following vehicle may not have the same view as you.

Dan505
15-11-12, 10:08 AM
i normally pull in near the kerb and slow down but i've had idiots in cars behind not see the police car and overtake me! :o slow and steady in my book but ach time is different, just do whatever feels right at the time.

A13X4ND7A
15-11-12, 10:19 AM
I'm going to sound like a geek now but the Highway Code actually has some sensible guidance on this it says -

... You should look and listen for ambulances, fire engines, police, doctors or other emergency vehicles using flashing blue, red or green lights and sirens or flashing headlights, or Highways Agency Traffic Officer and Incident Support vehicles using flashing amber lights. When one approaches do not panic. Consider the route of such a vehicle and take appropriate action to let it pass, while complying with all traffic signs. If necessary, pull to the side of the road and stop, but try to avoid stopping before the brow of a hill, a bend or narrow section of road. Do not endanger yourself, other road users or pedestrians and avoid mounting the kerb. Do not brake harshly on approach to a junction or roundabout, as a following vehicle may not have the same view as you.



Yeah Ive read that too when I was doing my theory but I was more concerned whether you actually physically have to stop or if you can pull over and keep going at a lower speed to let it pass.

Snowy
15-11-12, 10:38 AM
I'm going to sound like a geek now but the Highway Code actually has some sensible guidance on this it says -

... You should look and listen for ambulances, fire engines, police, doctors or other emergency vehicles using flashing blue, red or green lights and sirens or flashing headlights, or Highways Agency Traffic Officer and Incident Support vehicles using flashing amber lights. When one approaches do not panic. Consider the route of such a vehicle and take appropriate action to let it pass, while complying with all traffic signs. If necessary, pull to the side of the road and stop, but try to avoid stopping before the brow of a hill, a bend or narrow section of road. Do not endanger yourself, other road users or pedestrians and avoid mounting the kerb. Do not brake harshly on approach to a junction or roundabout, as a following vehicle may not have the same view as you.



Yeah Ive read that too when I was doing my theory but I was more concerned whether you actually physically have to stop or if you can pull over and keep going at a lower speed to let it pass.


You can do either, but which one you decide to do is a judgement call at the time as it depends on the situation you find yourself in. The most important thing is not to panic and hit the brakes but decide what you are going to do by taking the road ahead into account and do it without dithering and do it safely for you, other road users and the emergency vehicle coming up behind you.

QB1
15-11-12, 10:41 AM
I'm going to sound like a geek now but the Highway Code actually has some sensible guidance on this it says -

... You should look and listen for ambulances, fire engines, police, doctors or other emergency vehicles using flashing blue, red or green lights and sirens or flashing headlights, or Highways Agency Traffic Officer and Incident Support vehicles using flashing amber lights. When one approaches do not panic. Consider the route of such a vehicle and take appropriate action to let it pass, while complying with all traffic signs. If necessary, pull to the side of the road and stop, but try to avoid stopping before the brow of a hill, a bend or narrow section of road. Do not endanger yourself, other road users or pedestrians and avoid mounting the kerb. Do not brake harshly on approach to a junction or roundabout, as a following vehicle may not have the same view as you.



Yeah Ive read that too when I was doing my theory but I was more concerned whether you actually physically have to stop or if you can pull over and keep going at a lower speed to let it pass.


I understand where you're coming from and as you can see no black and white answer.

As others have said the worst thing you can do is to stop regardless like some people do.

I try and think about it from the view of the driver of the emergency services vehicle - if I was them where would I want me to be so that I could get past asap.

8_ball
15-11-12, 11:09 AM
blue, green light in front or behind..........thats a go like **** sign to me...............lol..only joking ::)

Snowy
15-11-12, 11:23 AM
I have on occasion maintained or increased speed to keep myself clear until I have reached a safe place to slow down or pull over. That's another option, but again purely depends on the road conditions and environment. I won't recommend breaking the speed limit to others but I will confess to doing so in some circumstances and will do again if its the right thing to do at the time.

Conehead
15-11-12, 01:15 PM
I am the same, I have been known to floor it if its unsafe to stop or slow down. I have done this for All services including Police and they have never challenged me. I would not push your luck though in doing this. As long as you are safe I am sure they will overlook it at the time.

A13X4ND7A
15-11-12, 02:11 PM
Ok, thanks for all the advice. I feel a little more happier now if it happens again.

The daily commute in and out of bath has a lot of challenges and some good learning experience and topped with being able to ask people on here I shall be a pro in no time haha.

Bulldog
15-11-12, 06:23 PM
One other place NOT to stop is on a single lane with double white lines. Surprisingly the emergency vehicle is not allowed to cross them so stopping there will just cause a big problem.

Rabb
17-11-12, 10:38 PM
I am the same, I have been known to floor it if its unsafe to stop or slow down. I have done this for All services including Police and they have never challenged me. I would not push your luck though in doing this. As long as you are safe I am sure they will overlook it at the time.

Ditto - I've done exactly the same thing on bikes and in cars.
It's a judgement call in relation to conditions - in fact I have actually been thanked by some Police officers for doing exactly the right thing! (Rapidly increasing speed to get out of the way)

Scotty
18-11-12, 12:06 AM
One other place NOT to stop is on a single lane with double white lines. Surprisingly the emergency vehicle is not allowed to cross them so stopping there will just cause a big problem.
The Highway Code states that vehicles that are doing less than 10mph or are stationary can be passed on double whites does it not?

Bulldog
18-11-12, 03:39 PM
That may be true but the doubles are there for a reason, and generally it isn't a place to pass unless you can clearly see the road ahead.

R2D2
19-11-12, 02:36 PM
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Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less.