View Full Version : Libya's Muammar Gaddafi 'killed'
FJ_Biker
20-10-11, 03:41 PM
Let’s hope things start settling down for the Libyans and they can move forward with their lives
Not sure its going to be quite as fantastic as everybody thinks tbh, I'm sure there is somebody already stepping into his shoes to continue his reign of misery... but maybe I'm just being a miserable bastard!
wiltshire builders
20-10-11, 05:53 PM
The newly formed government are the rebels, just like Gaddafi 40 years ago who we helped put in power, then hated when he blew up a plane over Scotland, then was best mates with our PM and then we helped kill him.
I'm a little confused as to who's side i'm supposed to be on.
redken1
20-10-11, 06:22 PM
Let’s hope things start settling down for the Libyans and they can move forward with their lives
Yep Taffy, I really hope that the Libyan people can now move forward after 42 years under the iron fist of Tyrant Gaddafi.
The UK hasn’t got a very good track record on backing champions of peace and democracy in global conflicts. We armed the Taliban (formerly the Mujahideen) in their struggle against the Russians and backed Saddam Hussein in the Iraq-Iran war.
I think it is now time for the US, British and others to take a step back and allow the Libyan people to decide their own destiny without outside interference. Fingers crossed for stability and peace.
Marmalade
20-10-11, 07:28 PM
Killed someone who looked after his country had good employment, low poverty etc and our countries government killed him for money and oil.
Great to be British
My heart goes out to the people of Libya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aJURNC0e6Ek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZRi42p-mNhA#!
FJ_Biker
21-10-11, 09:52 AM
Swanny some very interesting facts I never new. Looks like they will end up like the rest of the western world being sucked dry of natural resources and money by the big corporations
As good as he was to most of is citizens it did not stop him locking protesters up and at one point shooting 1200 of them in jail
Thank gawd for that ;D
Now we can send 'em the bill and ensure a constant stream of cheap oil 8-)---- I assume that is why we spent £millions on these rebs :-?
RedSoul
21-10-11, 07:58 PM
The newly formed government are the rebels, just like Gaddafi 40 years ago who we helped put in power, then hated when he blew up a plane over Scotland, then was best mates with our PM and then we helped kill him.
I'm a little confused as to who's side i'm supposed to be on.
Bang on......Gaddafi was bad but our leaders and politicians are no better...just have marginally better social skills ;D
Glad to see so many of you here are awake :)
redken1
21-10-11, 08:28 PM
A police officer who was on duty with PC Yvonne Fletcher when she was murdered has said Col Gaddafi's death is no cause for celebration.
There can be no doubt that Gaddafi was an evil murderer who showed no mercy to his victims. In my view, the way in which his captors brutally killed him and celebrated makes them no better than the tyrant himself. And today’s sun newspaper reached a new low with a front page lead showing his dead body and emotive words of revenge.
them no better than the tyrant himself.
Precisely ;D
Can confidently predict outright mayhem as different tribal leaders attempt to be head banana----utterly irrelevant and of minor interest, of course--
---Now have the tankers been sent and them ,gratefully saved by ships funded by British taxpayers, oil workers back on the job yet ?????
redken1
21-10-11, 09:23 PM
them no better than the tyrant himself.
Precisely ;D
Can confidently predict outright mayhem as different tribal leaders attempt to be head banana----utterly irrelevant and of minor interest, of course--
---Now have the tankers been sent and them ,gratefully saved by ships funded by British taxpayers, oil workers back on the job yet ?????
French been in there for ages Col - hardly surprising when you see where most of their oil came from prior to the conflict.
When I was a kid it was easy to identify the goodies and the badies. Where have all the good guys gone since John Wayne died? ;D
Yeah I know the Frogs have had it but seems to me we gotta bill that needs settling pdq so reckon it's time to acquire our ,generous, cut of the oil 8-)
wiltshire builders
22-10-11, 07:58 AM
And today’s sun newspaper reached a new low with a front page lead showing his dead body and emotive words of revenge.
I was disgusted with the pictures I saw when I logged into AOL. They were spread all over the news feed. I don't want to see a dead body being paraded around no matter who the victim is. >:(
BladeTriple
22-10-11, 06:05 PM
And today’s sun newspaper reached a new low with a front page lead showing his dead body and emotive words of revenge.
I was disgusted with the pictures I saw when I logged into AOL. They were spread all over the news feed. I don't want to see a dead body being paraded around no matter who the victim is. >:(
+1 ... Totally , there was no need for showing his body like that , when they put Saddam Husseins pics online in his undies it was in breach of the Geneva Convention, this was just another disgusting way of the press thinking they know what we want....
While it is good that the man has been removed from power, I personally think that he should've been left to rot in a dark prison cell for a very long time and pay for the crimes he committed. Death is instant , a life sentence would've had him suffer for the rest of his miserable life. He was hardly on the same playing field as Osama bin Laden where they needed to bump him off there and then.
2 wrongs do not make a right !
Evil Dictator who tortured and murdered anyone that opposed him.
Two wrongs don't make a right however, you reap what you sow.
You really have to live in a country like this where you fear your front door being broken down in the middle of the night by gun-totting soldiers / secret police and some of your relatives being taken away (never to be seen again) to understand what is like to live under this type of regime.
alanTDM
22-10-11, 07:53 PM
I dont know what pictures other papers had of the dead Gaddafi on there front page other than i saw The Sun,but i never heard anybody complaining about it on the radio or tv.Wonder how many 5-10 year kids saw those when they went into a shop that morning staring them in the face,but you can put a bet on that if it was hardporn plastered all over the front page you would hear loads of complaints about it on TV and Radio saying it was disgusting.
470four
22-10-11, 09:07 PM
Im more surprised there was anything left of him??
People are whinging about "Ooooooo we should have taking him to court!" & the entire country is full of ragheads with AK's & RPG's...
Do the Maths. ;)
I agree that the pics in the tabloids were too graphic, but I won't lose any sleep over the way Lybians meeted out summary justice to the evil tyrant that was Gadaffi.
BladeTriple
23-10-11, 01:00 AM
You really have to live in a country like this where you fear your front door being broken down in the middle of the night by gun-totting soldiers / secret police and some of your relatives being taken away (never to be seen again) to understand what is like to live under this type of regime.
Ah I'm sure everyone said Tito was an evil dictator at the time too but it was only once he died that all the balkan state countries fell apart and we then witnessed (well some of us did!) the genocide that came around when a dictator passed away and all the power he kept fell apart and people wiped each other off the place of the planet, leaving a gap for even worse people like Milosovic to come into place....
Not sure on your background Rabb but have you ever spent any time in warzones or countries where people are going around shooting their neighbours for being a different religion or nationality ? it was like Northerners killing Jocks for living in English towns ...
Power corrupts.... Just because our politicians are voted in doesn't make them nice people either... look at all the things we are sent to do in the name of 'Peace' - read Oil, Lithium , any other natural resource our leaders want our soldiers to go into a country and get our hands on .
The last conflict we entered into that was completely peace keeping and on a humanitarian footing was Kosovo, stopping even more genocide. Since then its been about getting our hands on natural resources under the pretence of stopping evil men...
Would we have helped the rebels and had a bombing campaign to oust Gaddafi had there been no oil fields? Would we hell!
Look at all the collatoral damage caused with civillians getting displaced and killed as a direct or indirect result of conflict between our armed forces and our enemies..... No we are not evil as soldiers but we are following the orders of men who justify their actions in strange ways.... Just as I'm sure Gadaffi did in some ways, granted his actions were more extreme however he will have still used reason to justify what he did !
redken1
23-10-11, 01:30 AM
In a futile attempt to restore faith in its global policing operation the US took the lead and released the following statement: The US has urged the Libyan authorities to determine the circumstances of his (Gaddafi) death in an "open and transparent manner."
As if they care? Who is press secretary at the Whitehouse? Barney Rubble?
The US military dossiers, obtained by the New York Times and the Guardian, reveal how, alongside the so-called "worst of the worst", many prisoners were flown to the Guantánamo cages and held captive for years on the flimsiest grounds, or on the basis of lurid confessions extracted by maltreatment.
The 759 Guantánamo files, classified "secret", cover almost every inmate since the camp was opened in 2002. More than two years after President Obama ordered the closure of the prison, 172 are still held there.
Dear Mr President, you don’t need to be a Muslim fundamentalist - the hypocrisy of the US administration is so ‘transparent’, a blind man can see it.
On the up side someone has saved a lot of money that a show trial would have cost and we don't have to listen to the ramblings of a former dictator as we did during Slobodan Milosevic's trial at the hague. Muammar Gaddafi was no doubt guilty of many things, but its irrelevant now, he paid the ultimate price.
We can only hope and pray (if thats your thing) thats life improves for Libyans and they can manage their great opportunity and natural resources which are not just oil.
Fat f***ing chance. Take one despotic dictator out, put another western friendly one in!
Plenty oil!
Simples! ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxNeW9UhhO0&feature=player_embedded
Think you have been told the truth about Libya?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUn0dgAOtQY
Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Dr. Steve Pieczenik Absolute Sure MUAMMAR GADDAFI Is ALIVE – ‘Obama Is An Obsessional Pathological Liar!’
“There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and change the regimes.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7yCYamrMzo
wiltshire builders
24-10-11, 01:24 PM
Im more surprised there was anything left of him??
entire country is full of ragheads with AK's & RPG's...
;)
Any need?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN0aNsA9ALg
redken1
24-10-11, 08:01 PM
For anyone who is interested, Panorama about the Tyrant tonight.
470four
24-10-11, 08:46 PM
Im more surprised there was anything left of him??
entire country is full of ragheads with AK's & RPG's...
;)
Any need?
- for all the guns?? Ask them! :D
I neither armed them or shot him so not my problem... had it have been a ruler in Africa or similar they would have been straight in there with machetes. ;)
On 14 October, President Barack Obama announced he was sending United States special forces troops to Uganda to join the civil war there. In the next few months, US combat troops will be sent to South Sudan, Congo and Central African Republic. They will only “engage” for “self-defence”, says Obama, satirically. With Libya secured, an American invasion of the African continent is under way.
470four
25-10-11, 07:19 PM
On 14 October, President Barack Obama announced he was sending United States special forces troops to Uganda to join the civil war there. In the next few months, US combat troops will be sent to South Sudan, Congo and Central African Republic. They will only “engage” for “self-defence”, says Obama, satirically. With Libya secured, an American invasion of the African continent is under way.
I married an American and spent some time living over there - they seem to be of the opinion if you cant shoot it, f*** it or eat it, it is of no use. :D
A nation of hunters, only content when they have an active warzone to play in. ;)
redken1
25-10-11, 07:30 PM
On 14 October, President Barack Obama announced he was sending United States special forces troops to Uganda to join the civil war there. In the next few months, US combat troops will be sent to South Sudan, Congo and Central African Republic. They will only “engage” for “self-defence”, says Obama, satirically. With Libya secured, an American invasion of the African continent is under way.
I married an American and spent some time living over there - they seem to be of the opinion if you cant shoot it, f*** it or eat it, it is of no use. :D
A nation of hunters, only content when they have an active warzone to play in. ;)
Ah, perhaps that explains the growing anti-American feeling around the world? :P
470four
25-10-11, 09:16 PM
On 14 October, President Barack Obama announced he was sending United States special forces troops to Uganda to join the civil war there. In the next few months, US combat troops will be sent to South Sudan, Congo and Central African Republic. They will only “engage” for “self-defence”, says Obama, satirically. With Libya secured, an American invasion of the African continent is under way.
I married an American and spent some time living over there - they seem to be of the opinion if you cant shoot it, f*** it or eat it, it is of no use. :D
A nation of hunters, only content when they have an active warzone to play in. ;)
Ah, perhaps that explains the growing anti-American feeling around the world? :P
My Ex-Wife? Indeed... :P
As we are only too well aware - no-one possesses the troops, firepower & balls to openly take on America...
wiltshire builders
25-10-11, 09:32 PM
Im more surprised there was anything left of him??
entire country is full of ragheads with AK's & RPG's...
;)
Any need?
- for all the guns?? Ask them! :D
I neither armed them or shot him so not my problem... had it have been a ruler in Africa or similar they would have been straight in there with machetes. ;)
I was refering to your use of the term "ragheads" i'm sure you can get your point across without
using phrases like that. If not maybe get a grown up to help you.
http://www.maximumbikes.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/popcorn.gif
My Ex-Wife? Indeed... :P
As we are only too well aware - no-one possesses the troops, firepower & balls to openly take on America...
I think China could be a match for the US
My Ex-Wife? Indeed... :P
As we are only too well aware - no-one possesses the troops, firepower & balls to openly take on America...
I think China could be a match for the US
Only one way to find out.....
FIIIGGGHHHTTT...... ;D
470four
26-10-11, 05:06 PM
My Ex-Wife? Indeed... :P
As we are only too well aware - no-one possesses the troops, firepower & balls to openly take on America...
I think China could be a match for the US
Only one way to find out.....
FIIIGGGHHHTTT...... ;D
LOL
Would never happen - America needs their goods, China needs their money... Would be an Epic ruckus tho. :D
China needs their money but America is broke so some things got to happen. Hold on tight
redken1
27-10-11, 10:25 PM
Cost of our involvement in Libyan conflict:
The MoD's current projection, based on the mission continuing till mid December, is that it will cost the British taxpayer around £300m - £160m for operational costs such as fuel, logistics and accommodation and £140m to replenish munitions.
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