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wiltshire builders
10-05-12, 02:33 PM
Just had a call saying my bike will fail it's MOT because the indicators are integrated into the rear light. Anyone else know about this? Because I bloody didn't!

bobtheimp
10-05-12, 02:43 PM
I've heard this before - apparently the indicators are supposed to be a certain distance apart ...
Having said that, it doesn't seem to be consistent - i.e. I know those with both integrated light/indy's to pass MOT's and others fail .. could be like 'zorst noise and down to the individual tester?

wiltshire builders
10-05-12, 02:53 PM
Exhausts don't fail on noise only if they're stamped with 'not for road use' or 'for race use'

Jon_W
10-05-12, 03:25 PM
I've heard of this before. Is often down to the testers interpritation of the rules.

Exhausts are different. The rule is that the exhaust should not be significantly louder than the original or marked not for road use / for race use. this is pure judgement on the part of the tester.

Swanny
10-05-12, 04:42 PM
This is what my Honda looks like

http://castlemotorcycles.co.uk/2012-honda-motorcycles/2011-honda-cbf600n/rear.png

Mitch9128
10-05-12, 04:57 PM
Wrong MOT man

Vee4 Gaz
10-05-12, 05:09 PM
Honda VFR800

1997 - 2001
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/garythebiker/Bikes/VFR_Rear.jpg

2001 to 2012

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/garythebiker/Bikes/Honda20VFR800200220206.jpg

These pass the MOT's

Vee4 Gaz
10-05-12, 05:17 PM
Found this website...


http://www.ukmot.com/bike_1-5.asp#Text_top

wiltshire builders
10-05-12, 05:36 PM
Hahahahahaha, INTERGRATED, PEOPLE!

As in built into.

Like this:
http://www.xdcycle.com/discount-motorcycle-accessories/2004-2005-Kawasaki-ZX10R-LED-Integrated-Tail-Light-With-Turn-Signals.html

Swanny
10-05-12, 05:38 PM
I'm not surprised they fail :)

bobtheimp
10-05-12, 06:47 PM
Things like those VFR's will be different as they are like that from the factory - everything seems to be down to the MOT tester's discretion..


Hahahahahaha, INTERGRATED, PEOPLE!
um, <spelling nazi>INTEGRATED</nazi> ;)

wiltshire builders
10-05-12, 08:34 PM
Things like those VFR's will be different as they are like that from the factory - everything seems to be down to the MOT tester's discretion..


Hahahahahaha, INTERGRATED, PEOPLE!
um, <spelling nazi>INTEGRATED</nazi> ;)
NOOOOO! ;D

Jon_W
11-05-12, 07:58 AM
Things like those VFR's will be different as they are like that from the factory - everything seems to be down to the MOT tester's discretion..


Hahahahahaha, INTERGRATED, PEOPLE!
um, <spelling nazi>INTEGRATED</nazi> ;)
NOOOOO! ;D

Noooo not another one!!!! ;D

Jon_W
11-05-12, 08:01 AM
The oem are seperate from the taillight, albiet in the same lense. The intergrated ones flash one taillight and there is a potential isssue with legallity.

SupeRDel
12-05-12, 09:11 AM
A few years back my XJR1300 failed the MOT because the indicators did not flash "orange" enough. The bike has mini indicators with white lenses. The bulbs had lost some of the yellow coating.

When I went to collect the bike the man in the office looked at the tester thinking he was joking.. :o

I was back 20 minutes later with bits of orange broken indicater lense wedged in behind the clear lenses (still there 5 years later)

Dare I say I never went there again. My present tester will pass the bike and mention anything that may need doing. There again I never knowingly take a bike to be MOT'ed if I think it will fail.

Noise is down to the descretion of the tester - if he thinks its too noisy then he could fail it

SupeRDel
12-05-12, 09:18 AM
We have a newly qualified MOT tester in the Aircooled RD club who does discount tests for us and gives advice (tests in Southampton though :()

He was saying the MOT test rules are forever changing and are getting a lot strictor.
The same chap is also the clubs vehicle dating officer with the DVLA. We can issue letter the DVLA will recognise for registering old bikes

Jon_W
14-05-12, 10:23 AM
A few years back my XJR1300 failed the MOT because the indicators did not flash "orange" enough. The bike has mini indicators with white lenses. The bulbs had lost some of the yellow coating.



I had that on Em's scooter. The orange colour on the lenses had become faded. Fitted orange bulbs and passed!

Nooj
14-05-12, 04:02 PM
Those Clear Alternative ones are very ambiguous, bad design in my opinion.

I make my own with a different circuit for tail, brake and signal and try to keep the brake and signal apart so it's clear to see what they're doing when everything's on.

I've just made these, and need to book in for an MoT, so will see what the verdict is:
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k117/TheOriginalNooj/My%20Bikes/Mods/TailTurn.jpg

The Sportster 48 has rear lights and indicators together behind the same lens from the factory (as do most cars), so if this passes, mine should:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qxFqZ6ngigg/S8Xi8xdtceI/AAAAAAAACek/tiM7G9MK9AU/s1600/2010-HarleyDavidson-SportsterForty-Eightg-small.jpg

From Gaz' link:


Check that the illumination of the indicators is not affected by the operation of any other lamp.

I'd fail the Clear Alternatives on these grounds as the indicators are obscured by the brake lights. I have designed mine to (hopefully!) pass this criteria.

Col
14-05-12, 06:12 PM
save the planet scrap mot --save the planet :P

all bloody twaddle---my cans got not for road use--like sold from a dealer with 'em and passes mot as ain't loud and it kinda obscured but who gives a monkeys--not like children are being slaughtered or some big crime happening

as I said...

utter twaddle ::)

don't won't to read any 'holier than thou' bleating as they are the words of the brainwashed and fact is what halfwit would use machine that has probs--yeah I know the answer is 'most' ::)............ :-X :-X

Tougher MOTs Sod the planet-tougher MOT sod the planet !!!! ;D ;D