Duc i am not trying to call you out, or dismiss your experience, your experience is nothing like mine though. That's not an opinion BTW, it's FACT.
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Duc i am not trying to call you out, or dismiss your experience, your experience is nothing like mine though. That's not an opinion BTW, it's FACT.
when it looks dirty I clean with a hose, not too powerfull, soak with water dispersant for 5 mins and clean with a good degreaser and a rag and for all of about 5 mins. squirt it with copious amounts of dry ptfe chain lube by muc-off, go for a ride, then give it another blast for good measure when the chain is warm. works well for me. no splatter, chain looks clean for ages, well lubed but looks bare. win win.
I completely agree that our experiences are completely different, there are a variety of possible explanations for that, but the experiences are still genuine despite being different.your experience is nothing like mine though
Just cos my epxerience isn't the same as yours doesn't mean it didn't happen or that it's somehow less valid.
Genuine experiences vary and that's why I think folks should see both ends of the range of experiences.
Here's a picture of "splatter" so you can see the extent.
Jacket recently washed in NickWax Tech Wash (but doesn't remove Scottoil).
It does bother me somewhat that I can't buy the nice looking expensive gear that I'd like to because it will just end in a mess. Maybe that's a bit superficial, but yes I'd like to look nice.
Where have i said there is 'NO' splatter? I have in fact said there is splatter, opinions are just that BTW, i can and will dismiss them as bollocks, if i think they are.
Of course you can disagree with opinions.
However if you try to claim your opinions are the only ones that are right, valid or true, then I will disagree with you as I have that right too.
Why don't we simply agree to disagree
I think people have got the gist that our experience and opinions are at two ends of the spectrum and I think they've now probably received the benefit of the sum of our experience and opinions, so there is nothing more to be gained by continuing to argue.
I didn't come here to argue or score points, just to balance the discussion for the benefit of others and I think we're now done on that.
I appreciate it's very confusing when people have genuine but hugely differing opinions.
I have had the same experience myself when getting opinions on whether to repair or replace a tyre.
I got hugely varying opinions, but all were genuinely held beliefs based on genuine experience.
No-one made anything up or was trying to trick me (why would they?)
In the end I just had to make my own decision.
I accept your apology.
Originally Posted by Mitch9128
Does anyone clean their chain (the dangerous way) - as I do?
OK I have to ask how do you clean yours? :-?Originally Posted by Rabb
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