and just because i cant resist it now, to make anyone squirm,,, didnt think you can ever get too close when in leather... thats what nanny used to say when talking of our special love....oh i forget i am not suposed to ever say about that, and uncle herb!!! Funny havent seen uncle herb ofor many years now, strangely his house kept burning down ... most odd....Snigger...feeling uncomfortable anyone????? jolly good!! ;D, :-* :-* :-* :-* oh well....