I have Gerbin ones and ridden for 5 years QB1 all winter 75 miles each way for 4 yrs working at Hondas HQ. They are perfect. Actually I went out Sunday for a day in Oxfordshire and used them on half heat 10 - 12 c outside. They are plugged into my ciggy lighter and you soon get pretty quick puting the loom on. When I put my jacket on I hold each glove wire in my hands and that automatically threads them. The later models are better armoured too.