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    Wandering off the beaten track here, but interesting debate.
    I’m with you on Trident Mitch. IMO, total madness to spend £100billion on a WMD that is capable of destroying the planet over and over again, when we can’t even afford to feed our own people.
    The latest figures from the Trussell Trust show a 19% year-on-year increase in food bank use, demonstrating that hunger and poverty continue to affect large numbers of people in the UK, including rising numbers of low-paid workers. The trust’s food banks distributed enough emergency food to feed almost 1.1 million people for three days in 2014/15 – up from 913,000 the previous year.
    I think attitudes are changing towards nuclear weapons and more people are finding it difficult to justify such huge public expenditure in light of increasing hardship like the aforementioned. Back in the 80s if you opposed the deployment of WMDs you were labelled as a bunch of ‘misguided lesbians’, but now the mood is shifting and the County is more evenly split, with a higher percentage of Scots against them.

    Who decides who the good guys are when we talk of nuclear weapons acting as a deterrent? Using such logic, ordinary Iranians could and indeed do argue that Iran is developing nuclear weapons out of a rational fear for its national safety because of the systematically threatening posture of the United States and Israel. Maybe a view not widely shared here or in the US, but a widespread one held in many parts of the world nonetheless. I wonder if the US/UK led invasion of Iraq in 2003 without UN backing would have happened if Saddam had possessed WMDs? How many people would be happy for WMDs to be sited in Wiltshire?
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    Corbyn can says what he wants and people will like what he says but at the end of the day someone will have to pay for it to work

    If you are a working man paying taxes then be prepared to pay a lot income tax and national insurance.

    If he plans to finance things by cutting our defence budget then we might as well wave the white flag now and let the Muslims take over
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupeRDel View Post

    If he plans to finance things by cutting our defence budget then we might as well wave the white flag now and let the Muslims take over
    Because the nuclear deterrent keeps 'the muslims' out, eh?
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupeRDel View Post

    If he plans to finance things by cutting our defence budget then we might as well wave the white flag now and let the Muslims take over
    Can't believe there are people who still actually think like this , that's the sort of mentality that was shared whilst Hitler was rounding up Jews in Poland .

    Watching this thread is like witnessing a load of drowning people fighting over a punctured liferaft .
     
     

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    Currently JC is known to only put his gentleman parts inside humans, another plus
     
     

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    I was actually moaning when all the TV coverage was being show after the election that Labour needed to return to their roots. Corbyn is only returning to Tony Benn/Michael Foot politics not Labour's roots.

    Believe it or not, those who don't support Labour ideals and the far left have valid views as well, oh hang on, weren't they the ones that voted the current government in and soundly kicked labour's butt?

    All this CND and power to the people stuff takes me back to being 16 again, it's brilliant. I was punk, couldn't have been more left if I had tried (wanted to go to Greenham Common when I was 13 after overdosing on Crass records, really couldn't see why my mum wouldn't let me go there....) but I grew up to realised I didn't want equality to the stage where half my wages go to feed the poor, no matter where in the world they might be - think I picked up some of Thatcher's selfishness along the way. Never liked her at the time but by god she's makes good cider
     
     

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    The roots of the labour party were never with Bliar or Milliband, they had moved new labour so far to the right, as to be unrecognisable from the conservatives. Benn and Foot were old labour, as is JC, so yes he has returned the party to it's roots.
    Half your wages don't go to feeding the poor either, stop reading the Daily Mail. Oh and as for the lovely Maggie...http://theleveller.org/2015/09/british-really-laughing/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch9128 View Post
    The roots of the labour party were never with Bliar or Milliband, they had moved new labour so far to the right, as to be unrecognisable from the conservatives. Benn and Foot were old labour, as is JC, so yes he has returned the party to it's roots.
    Half your wages don't go to feeding the poor either, stop reading the Daily Mail.
    .... or this thread ; )
     
     

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    Trev, this forum is dead, no one hardly posts on here, at least this is getting people talking, or are you suggesting censorship?
     
     

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    Mitch, merely pointing out that if you suggest stop reading the Daily Mail as some of what it prints may not quite be 100% factually correct (god forbid!) then it's probably best to do the same with this thread on the same basis.

    Certainly not suggesting censorship, at least of this type of subject and content. I do agree the forum is pretty quiet, probably down to relatively small number of members, not sure though that political 'debate' is the way to drag bikers to their keyboards. Probably that most have better things to do than browse forums - that reminds me, I should be working, wages to earn, taxes to pay and all that ; )
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