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    Quote Originally Posted by Dabz View Post
    If you ask me Facebook has a lot to answer for - too many people believe every photoshopped picture or completely fabricated claim and it wins votes
    Dont get me started, the amount of utter rubbish people share blindly at the moment without so much as a reverse image search or just googleing the damn topic is unreal. I have removed a couple of people on the back of it actually.

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    I couldn't give a flying fekk about any of them. But I do feel for the guys who fought in the Falklands having to listen to him being congratulated by the Argentinian Prime Minster as he wants a joint a joint administration there and Gerry Adams pleased as he fought for Replucanism in Ireland. I also think the Torys are tw@ts wanting to make strikers wear arm bands and report their details to the police first !!!
    I was deployed down there during the 30th Anniversary of the war and to say the Argentinians were taking the piss is an understatement, constant infringements of airspace amongst some other stuff I wont go into on here. On top of that they just bought some long range bombers from the Russians and have been quite vocal of late regarding the whole thing. The second we show any sort of lack of interest like the last time round they will be there quicker than you can imagine and we will look like a pretty poor excuse of a country without the Navy we had 33 years ago to go back down and sort it out. The UK on the world stage would be a shell of its former self!
     
     

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    On second look my maths is way out on that last bit... gotta wonder how I manage to run a business lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dabz View Post
    On second look my maths is way out on that last bit... gotta wonder how I manage to run a business lol
    'cos you're doing it for the challenge rather than the money of course ; )
     
     

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    Definitely, if I was doing it for money I'd have given up 10 years ago!
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    James I don't think the owners of small businesses run well have anything to fear. But not all businesses/ companies follow a moral compass and share your sense of ethical values. We can't continue ignoring the likes of Starbucks and Amazon with their clever accountants, and HSBC helping them to exploit tax dodging schemes. And then we have the millions of recruitment agency employees, many on the minimum wage with agencies milking off £2, £3 and sometimes £4 and over an hour from them. Most of the agencies contract out the payroll service to umbrella companies and the employees are then forced to pay these companies to pay them. Thousands if not millions of these agency workers are working alongside company employees doing the same job for far less money and nothing like the same working conditions. And the law whereby such companies are compelled to offer the agency workers the same contracts as their own employees after 12 weeks is meaningless in most sectors, because the agency workers are simply made redundant and new staff employed under the same arrangement. Zero hours contracts? Offer zero and expect zero in return. How can any employee feel valued or plan for the future on Zero hours contracts? Now we will see under 25s discriminated against in the workplace as they are exempt from the minimum wage, Ordinary workers won't unite behind a government which is hell bent on creating a 'us and them' attitude in the workplace. At a time when industrial disputes are historically low, what does the government do? It attacks the unions. We must not forget that we elect our politicians to represent us first and foremost, not business. Corbyn or not, if we continue to ignore basic justice and fairness in the workplace there is huge trouble ahead.
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    Should never start a discussion of politics or religion. We all have our own points to put across. Some would love Labour to get back in others like me would prefer a country to be run properly where at some point it has to pay it's debts as we all have to do in life. Hopefully for most of us he will remain as opposition up to and after the next election and will just become another Ed Millibland
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinb View Post
    Should never start a discussion of politics or religion. We all have our own points to put across. Some would love Labour to get back in others like me would prefer a country to be run properly where at some point it has to pay it's debts as we all have to do in life. Hopefully for most of us he will remain as opposition up to and after the next election and will just become another Ed Millibland
    The debt/defecit has always been there, the tories would love to convince you they are reducing it, when in fact they are maintaining it. By maintaining it, they can keep the austerity measures in place, and introduce more and more, to reduce the defecit of course. £100bn Trident would be a good start to reduce some debt, no-one is ever going to use it, what's the point?
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch9128 View Post
    The debt/defecit has always been there, the tories would love to convince you they are reducing it, when in fact they are maintaining it. By maintaining it, they can keep the austerity measures in place, and introduce more and more, to reduce the defecit of course. £100bn Trident would be a good start to reduce some debt, no-one is ever going to use it, what's the point?
    Right I am going to bite here. Its called a deterrant for a reason, just because we have never used them doesnt mean we do not need them. Other countries aside in terms of what they are and are not developing, trident means we keep a permanant seat on the UN Security council and maintain a veto right. Give up Tridant, give up that right.

    Not only that the countries who are actively seeking to develop nuclear capability (Iran and North Korea are the two big ones) are the exact reason we need to keep it. Its not so much the state we need to consider, but the ability for a group such as ISIS to capture and use it for their own reasons. The ability to strike first in a situation like this should not be given up under any circumstances as the alternative wouldnt be worth living for.
    Anyone who seriously thinks we can afford to get rid of the nuclear deterrant to save a tiny bit of money in the schem of things to spend on who knows what must live with their head in the clouds and has no real understanding of a far far bigger picture.
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uber Dave View Post
    Right I am going to bite here. Its called a deterrant for a reason, just because we have never used them doesnt mean we do not need them. Other countries aside in terms of what they are and are not developing, trident means we keep a permanant seat on the UN Security council and maintain a veto right. Give up Tridant, give up that right.

    Not only that the countries who are actively seeking to develop nuclear capability (Iran and North Korea are the two big ones) are the exact reason we need to keep it. Its not so much the state we need to consider, but the ability for a group such as ISIS to capture and use it for their own reasons. The ability to strike first in a situation like this should not be given up under any circumstances as the alternative wouldnt be worth living for.
    Anyone who seriously thinks we can afford to get rid of the nuclear deterrant to save a tiny bit of money in the schem of things to spend on who knows what must live with their head in the clouds and has no real understanding of a far far bigger picture.
    The bigger picture, would therefore to be to scrap nuclear weapons worldwide, no? No-one is going to use them, bar the odd nutjob organisation, so why does the developed world build something it has no use for? Policing the nutjob states that try to develop them on the side, would be another matter.
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch9128 View Post
    The bigger picture, would therefore to be to scrap nuclear weapons worldwide, no? No-one is going to use them, bar the odd nutjob organisation, so why does the developed world build something it has no use for? Policing the nutjob states that try to develop them on the side, would be another matter.
    You sadly can no un-invent technology otherwise I am sure they would have been got rid of. People will work out how to do it on their own accord and one day we will likely need them, you cant just build these things in days as and when you need them and even if we could the cost would be 10x that of a planned renewal and maintanance.
     
     

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