David's story

[QB1]

I think there has been enough said about who was to blame and what should or shouldn't have happened, I watched the vid earlier this morning and made a comment about the speed and the blind driver, now just thinking more about it not being me next, or anyone else.
We already know the roads are full of idiots and we are more vulnerable, ride safely. Hopefully the family can be satisfied it's a talking point and may help drivers/riders to think more.

Take care out there...

I agree with you...but I think we are all those idiots at times, some of us are just lucky idiots.

[Mal103]

I agree with you...but I think we are all those idiots at times, some of us are just lucky idiots.

i've done both (or similar) over the years and been lucky, I've been hanging on by my butt cheeks on a bend and putting the breaks on quick saying ohhhhh Shiite. Had a car pull out on me, fell off a few times, pulled out making someone break. Always managed to get away with missing, stopping or coming off with just scratches. I challenge anyone to say they haven't had similar experiences.
never had a bad crash though, only car I've hit was one that pulled out on me early on.
Balance the above with over 27 years of riding/driving and thousands of miles then I think I am either lucky or semi good. I think we owe it to ourselves, our friends/family and other road users to take it easy and take care. Won't be long before someone tries to ban bikes as being dangerous.

sorry to come across as preaching a bit but inexperienced riders really need to be aware, there is nothing wrong with speed, it's the inability to stop in time when things change or go wrong - that's when it's too late...

[Mal103]

No probs Dave and sorry for coming across a bit strong earlier. I am sure there are plenty of occasions when bad luck strikes and there is nothing you can do about it, like a near miss with a deer! At the other end of the scale is taking excessive risks where luck has nothing to do with it.
I think there are a whole bunch of occasions in between that are part luck and part skill, like riding fast round a bend and slipping on mud, I don't think that is totally unlucky, I think it's mostly bad riding. Depends what you think is luck, I would rather ride the best I can.

[Vulcanboy]

An interesting discussion. For my Euros worth, the car driver was wrong not to have seen the bike and other vehicle, or, at least, not to have reacted in a proper way. The motorcyclist did not cause the accident, but severely reduced his chances of avoiding the accident, let alone surviving it .... there are plenty of bits of road where you can open up the throttle and do 160+ mph if you have a mind to, which are quite safe from all but leaping deer and pheasants etc ..... this road junction was not one of them .... 97 mph gave this poor young man no chance .... and even if the car driver did see him, he may well have pulled out, anyway.. RIP . Richard