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    Speeding motorway drivers could be fined up to £10,000 under plans being considered by the Government.
    Maximum penalties for offences including drink-driving and driving with defective tyres or brakes could all increase to £10,000.
    The increase would mean magistrates are able to impose fines four times larger than at present.


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    Thats alright - we are riders not drivers :-)
     
     

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    It's being badly reported. It's about raising more than just motoring fines but even were it to happen it would still be based on a persons ability to pay and financial hardship that would be caused, so only the richest tossers would really feel it.
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WR6133 View Post
    It's being badly reported. It's about raising more than just motoring fines but even were it to happen it would still be based on a persons ability to pay and financial hardship that would be caused, so only the richest tossers would really feel it.
    They have a similar set-up in some scandinavian customers, might be better to be a poor tosser after all
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trev View Post
    They have a similar set-up in some scandinavian customers, might be better to be a poor tosser after all
    If they follow the letter of the law any fine should equal the same financial punishment in terms of proportion to the persons circumstance, so no savings, minimum wage worker should be at the low end of the scale while an investment banker should be at the higher end. That applies now, so if they raised the upper limits unless you are pretty wealthy it should make little difference and if you are that wealthy maybe a more meaningful fine can be imposed.

    That's in an ideal world though I suspect in reality the poor sap with the legal aid solicitor ends up paying back the big fine in instalments while the rich guy with the high flying law firm onside pays b-all
     
     

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    This is all scaremongering as far as I can see. Punishment for most crimes is so lenient in the UK, as the prisons are already full to bursting point!!
    Take the latest story in this area.
    Chap plunders literally thousands from a disability charity, goes to court, gets a suspended sentence, fined £1000 and ordered to do 21 hours at an attendance centre and a curfew.
    But, the curfew will be lifted for a fortnight because he's off on his holidays.
    Whoever said that crime doesn't pay is talking a load of old b******s. End of rant.
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WR6133 View Post
    If they follow the letter of the law any fine should equal the same financial punishment in terms of proportion to the persons circumstance, so no savings, minimum wage worker should be at the low end of the scale while an investment banker should be at the higher end. That applies now, so if they raised the upper limits unless you are pretty wealthy it should make little difference and if you are that wealthy maybe a more meaningful fine can be imposed.
    Great, so those like me who work hard, pay massive tax per year will have to pay more money to the government.....
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyNot View Post
    Great, so those like me who work hard, pay massive tax per year will have to pay more money to the government.....
    That's why your government loves you
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyNot View Post
    Great, so those like me who work hard, pay massive tax per year will have to pay more money to the government.....
    By the letter of the law though (not that it seems to be applied properly) before fining anyone they should take in to account earnings, assets, etc and make any fine proportionate to that so that no matter what your income the hardship caused by the fine should be equal.

    The fine is punishment not revenue generation so why should a poor person be (proportionately to their wealth) punished more than a wealthier person, raising maximum thresholds just evens things up.
     
     

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    Depends on the crime. Good old working class crime like armed robbery can carry (what I think are) stupidly disproportionate sentences. Posh white collar crime like huge frauds do seem to carry little if no meaningful punishment. Just those at the top looking after their own while stomping hard on any one from below that dares to say f*ck the system.
     
     

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