Halal Meat

[wiltshire builders]

There's been a lot of chest beating, moral outrage and finger pointing going on in the press lately due to several companies admitting that they serve Halal meat.

Now I understand that some people can't eat it due to their religious beliefs and I think they have every right to be upset that it is being served without correct labeling.
But I find it hard to swallow (yeah I did that on purpose) all these people banging on about it being inhumane.

Is there really a humane way of killing an animal?

It's not like abattoirs are in the habit of tickling animals to death.

[Swanny]

You should listen to Ian R Crane in the wiki leaks thread

[Linford]

I'd have regulated slaughter houses that at least stun the animal before its killed any day... yes I know the beasts still suffer, but they suffer a hell of a more by not being stunned in this barbaric way. It's pathetic how spineless our country has become to allow this S#@t to happen.

[Vulcanboy]

I'll look into Mr Tesla and his works and report back ....

[Swanny]

I'll look into Mr Tesla and his works and report back ....

Have a look at this

[WR6133]

A lot of Halal meat is stunned and then blessed before the throat is cut. I think it's Jewish meat can never be stunned.

I object to eating either without being told but to be honest I don't really give a toss if the animal was stunned and sliced or beaten down with a 2X4 and rusty nail, we do worse to each other and less eyebrows are raised.

[Gavuk]

I worked in a chicken factory for a while,all the birds were stunned then throats cut,this method allowed the birds heart to pump out the blood ,stopping the black bits found in some value chicken.

All birds killed in this fashion ,were Halal and Kosha,but were also sold in english supermarkets and places like Nandos with the method of production not stated,the birds didn't suffer unduly and there were gov vets on site monitoring at all times..

This is not something new I worked there 8 years ago,this media coverage is just stirring up racial prejudice,we have all been eating meat killed in this fashion for a long time...

[Jon_W]

I worked in a chicken factory for a while,all the birds were stunned then throats cut,this method allowed the birds heart to pump out the blood ,stopping the black bits found in some value chicken.

All birds killed in this fashion ,were Halal and Kosha,but were also sold in english supermarkets and places like Nandos with the method of production not stated,the birds didn't suffer unduly and there were gov vets on site monitoring at all times..

This is not something new I worked there 8 years ago,this media coverage is just stirring up racial prejudice,we have all been eating meat killed in this fashion for a long time...

Same here. We probably worked for the same company....

There are a few reasons for using the Halal kill method. The first is saleability.... Once you have a certificate from the Halal Food Authority, the meat can be sold as either Halal, or not. The second is legislative. There are different rules regarding "religious" killing methods which make these methods favourable in some cases. There still has to be vets and animal welfare people present, as in any slaughter house so the animals welfare is the same. The third reason is quality, especially in white meat. If an animal is killed by electrocution, the sudden surge in blood pressure causes small veins to burst. This creates red blotches in the meat which can be unsightly and have an effect of flavour. The last reason is removal of blood. The best pump to remove blood from a carcass is the one nature designed for the task. Cost the producer nothing and is far more efficient that any man made pump.

Lastly, if the line stops with animals stunned, they have their throats cut by hand before they wake up or are electrocuted and discarded.

[wiltshire builders]

Cheers Gav.
I guess you can't argue with that.
Thanks for setting us straight even though you've effectively killed the thread 😄

Anyone pro/anti fracking?

[Gavuk]

Sorry WB....

It wasn't a pleasant experience working in that industry,but I never saw anything that put me off eating chicken either.

We could tell the difference when they injected the birds with brine though ,the meat is moist but doesn't lift as clean from the bones as non injected,I think this has the same effect on pork where you don't always get crackling....que the replies, I rub in salt and i always have perfect crackling or I have a saucer of water in the oven...etc etc

I doubt we will get any real say in fracking ,it would be nice to think if/when it does happen its and british company that pays taxes and cannot overcharge us for the privilege though

Gav