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Had to get a photo of my self coming over Ballaugh bridge
This is back on the normal 2 way roads with speed limits. Some people do jump the bridge hoping a copper is not there when they do it.
Bar for the unrestricted mountain part of the course the speed limits were strictly enforced
Coppers there are not against bikers (they all ride bike) but they will not tolerate dangerous riding
Great photos! Nasty video!
My view would be both riders involved in the crash are to blame and no others.
The slow overtaker did not use his mirrors - I think this is fairly apparent as he did not see the second party approaching with speed, he also did not see the video taker as im sure he had to brake pretty dam hard (hence a bit of wobble on the vid). He also did not check his blind spot otherwise he would have seen the video taker.
The second party was (although on an open speed limit road with other super fast riders) riding too fast for the traffic on the road full stop and was just unlucky there was a numb nut pulling out.
Hopefully both were able to make a fully recover and take something away from such a nasty crash.
I think you will find the camera bikes wobble was caused by the fast bike hitting on the way past - you can hear the glancing blow on the video sound.
Riders on the mountain course cannot blindly expect the road a head to be clear or that slow moving car/bike in front is aware they are coming.
I would hazard a guess that part of this is the old follow my leader syndrome.
First rider eases off, Second rider slows, third rider is braking. fourth rider is emergency braking last rider is crashing.
Have seen this happen on many runs.
Bikes approach on the mountain course going very fast - working speeds out by glancing in the mirror is not easy.
I went around one left hand bend and could see a car behind. Half way around the bend I was surprised to be past by a AMG Smart car that was going seriously fast.
He flew past the couple of cars that I was preparing to pass as well
I agree with a lot of the above, I can't help feeling the camera bike was also at fault for not going through. I'm not sure there was a need to slow to the speed of the overtaking bike and if he'd passed the speeding bike would have maybe had space to get through without incident.
It's a complex one alright.
Superb photo's btw. Really nice insight into what it's like over there.
100% the bikers fault.
Riding over the mountain (they got rid of mad Sunday years ago) during TT week is one of the most frightening things I've done on a bike.
The roads are full of ass*oles who think they can ride. Much like our friend in the video.
In 2012 five people were killed, some of them locals.
Racing was delayed nearly every day and like super del said the evidence could be seen by the markings on the road.
One morning just before mountain mile I saw a black tyre mark and a hole through a grass bank that lead to a 20ft drop from the night before.
It's a tough way to learn that you're not as good as you think you are.
On the "mad Sunday" the roads are so full that from Douglas to Ramsey and the start of the mountain its hard to get over 30mph anyway.
But basically its madness on the mountain everyday and as soon as the racing stops and the roads are declared open.
People pull into laybys just to watch the bikes hurtling past. Some of the german riders are really scarey.
Stopped going up the mountain to take a few shots (This is not far from the accident on the video) - at this point the bikes are really beginning to go for it
You may also note the road over the mountain is not that wide so it leaves little room for mistakes.
Pulling out of these stop places is much like joining a motorway from a T-junction with the traffic coming at you at over 100mph
Last edited by SupeRDel; 03-04-14 at 04:23 PM.
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