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02-04-14, 08:20 AM
I've watched this video and can't figure who makes the mistake, or at least the worst one! bear in mind it's the TT. No limits and one way. I think the car driver may be the only person not at fault. Thoughts?
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The rider made the mistake by assuming the road in front will always be clear.
When you leave Ramsey the road over the top becomes one way with open speed limits. This crash is going up the first part of the mountain after the Gooseneck.
The police on the island will paint vehicle crash position on the road with white paint and I can remember seeing this marked out
Basically they man all junctions up the mountain waiting for a crash to happen to clear up.
They were regular when I was there - mountain was shut everytime I went to go over it. I was stuck on top for 2 hours when a crash happened after Hailwood rise.
I chatted to a copper on the top while watching the bikes pass. All vehicles have the same rights on the mountain. As well as bikes there are cars, vans and big campervans (doing 30mph)
All the intelligent drivers of slow vehicles will keep to the left. I was doing 80 on my RD400 (which is slow on the mountain) and had bikes passing me at 150
The copper said to me, what people do not realise is that every vehicle can use the racing lines on corners. See the first part of the video. The rider passes a car on a right hand bend.
The car driver was well within his right to use the race line and pull over pushing the bike off the road.
Copper told me it was a regular type of crash - thats why there is big signs at the bottom saying use your mirrors.
Racing was delayed on Mad Sunday - This procession was bringing down a wrecked bike. The lady who owned our house said there was so many accidents on mad sunday in 2012 that the police asked for a race to be held on the sunday too close the roads
Last edited by SupeRDel; 02-04-14 at 09:54 AM.
This is the junction at the top of Hailwood rise - the copper I was chatting too was stood next to me. Some bikes are coming past at 150mph
Then in the fast bikes, slow bikes, classic bikes you will get this........... a campervan
You also get some seriously fast car driving around as well going it welly (Ferrari's / Porches, etc)
Don't expect them to wait either, they will dive thru like Marquez in the Motogp
This is taken at the Bungalow (a pull off at the top) looking up Hailwood Rise - the previous photos were taken at the junction at the top of Hailwood rise looking back towards this.
Its a busy stream of bikes and cars all day - some people go around and around all day.
Note the 2 police cars by the junction. Shortly after I took this there was a crash farther on. One waiting copper stops the flow and the other attends
Not forgetting the tourist bus that drive the circuit. Might you if you cannot see a bus........need I say more?
Knew I had a photo somewhere.
This was actually outside a garage but on the mountain circuit they mark accidents the same and clear the roads quite quickly to get it open
Its not like the Uk where a minor accident has to be inspected for hours...
Cant see how or why the car driver is at fault.Originally Posted by napalm
I reckon it's the bike coming up too fast not assessing the speeds of everyone in front of him/her.
The coppers just sit and watch and clear the carnage.
The first bike that pulls out to overtake the car should also take some blame, he must have (or should have) seen the bike coming up behind at speed and yet does such a slow overtake.
Nice photos SupeRDel
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