Oh yes, forgot to mention, I always give the nod too, so if I didn't nod, I didn't see you - sorry Even teen scooter nutters get the nod - if only to laugh at the puzzled expressions I get back, lol. There are loads in Trowbridge - all of them convinced that if they blip their throttle constantly at a standstill, that they'll be able to beat me off the lights. I let them go usually, then pop into second, apply a modest amount of right wrist and watch them wobble around in my wing mirror. Oh the joys of town riding......same method applies to most saxo/corsa/astra/bmw/nova/old clapped out mondeo drivers