Yeh it is mate but it was late and actually I was more raging than embarressed. I f I had crashed for being a numpty I would have been embarressed, I was more raging about the fact that a farmer is allowed to compromise the grip on a tight bend with no reprocutions unless cought in the act by a copper. Now I've got to pick up the bill for his neglegence. remember I was doing about 15 mph and couldn't see ahead in the dark as there was a car in front of me and I was on the **** before I knew it. I forsee a few slashed tractor tyres and suger and the deisle tanks locall to avebury, costing thousands to repair.