thanks Bob, Ive been riding on "L" plates for 34 years, it's about time I tore 'em up!! I've no problems with the practical test, I know I can ride a bike , been doin it every day since I was 16, no insurance claims in all that time, but the thought of the theory test, buggering about with multiple choice questions and hazard perception fills me with dread, i was never any good in the classroom!!!