London riots

[redken1]

lumpen prols were identified many many years ago. remove them from society and society benefits

Throwing the “Proletariats" (underclass) to the proverbial lions is not a long term option for the morally bankrupt ruling classes. The capitalist system can never deliver social harmony and a crime free society because it is underpinned by greed. The Haves will always hold on to their wealth at any cost and the Have-nots will go to any lengths to secure their share. Before the political elite can even begin to re-engage with the millions of disenfranchised UK citizens, they will need to demonstrate transparency accountability and above all honesty, within the corridors of power. They should climb down from the high moral ground - which they have no right to occupy - and take a long hard look at their own behaviour if they are to govern with any credibility.

[FJ_Biker]

Last Train wrote

Charles Moore Telegraph article

This pretty much sums up my views on the British system, thanks for posting. Just a shame no-one is tackling this.

[cornishbob]

redken1 - i think you misunderstand me. LUMPENS was a german who at the same time as communist ideas were being developed identified certain social groups that would not or could not intergrate into a communist/socialist society. the groups included bankers right down to tramps ans vagrants. basically as i read it the paracites(?) that feed off the rest off us the true proletatiats. only difference again as i understand it he advocated a more severe way os dealing them but stupidly education was chosen as the way forward.

[Col]

Last Train wrote

Charles Moore Telegraph article

This pretty much sums up my views on the British system, thanks for posting. Just a shame no-one is tackling this.

+1 Well it is about time these issues were looked into after the 'wake-up call' riots.

Problem is the 'governments' are in control and actively encourage, either by naievity,lack of expertise/knowledge, unwilling to reduce costs of state employment,blah, blah, etc.

A reformation of 'the state and society' in its entirety is , perhaps, the only real solution.

[redken1]

redken1 - i think you misunderstand me. LUMPENS was a german who at the same time as communist ideas were being developed identified certain social groups that would not or could not intergrate into a communist/socialist society. the groups included bankers right down to tramps ans vagrants. basically as i read it the paracites(?) that feed off the rest off us the true proletatiats. only difference again as i understand it he advocated a more severe way os dealing them but stupidly education was chosen as the way forward.

Sorry for the misunderstanding Bob. Although closely linked, there are two definitions for Proletariats.

1 Workers or working-class people (often used with reference to Marxism). 2 The lowest class of citizens in ancient Rome. Never mind, at least I got the opportunity to make my point.

[cornishbob]

no mis understanding just a deviation in ideology me thinks

[Jon_W]

Rioting hit Calne!!!

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Small-to...ail/story.html

In a half-arsed rubbish kinda way!!!!!