redken1 - i think you misunderstand me. LUMPENS was a german who at the same time as communist ideas were being developed identified certain social groups that would not or could not intergrate into a communist/socialist society. the groups included bankers right down to tramps ans vagrants. basically as i read it the paracites(?) that feed off the rest off us the true proletatiats. only difference again as i understand it he advocated a more severe way os dealing them but stupidly education was chosen as the way forward.
