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    Anyone uncertain about the extent to which the eurozone crisis is bringing about profound change in Europe should turn their attention towards Rome.
    Italy, a major European power, now has a cabinet made up entirely of technocrats. Unlike in Greece, there's not an elected politician among them.
    And all because senior eurozone leaders, and the markets, demanded it is so.
     
     

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    awwwwwwwww thought this was the latest idea to reduce unemployment and get industry rolling rather than a tale of 'alcoholics running the bar', so to speak, Ken
    I need amusement in my sad life and it looks, very much, like you fit this requirement admirably..............begin the amusement!!!!!
     
     

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    I thought it was going to be about the disagreements between UK & Germany this week...
     
     

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    The Banksters are “Stealing Governments”: Mario Monti, Italy’s New PM



    investmentwatchblog.com

    November 13, 2011



    The “Shock Doctrine” is clearly at work again. Look at Italy’s new leader’s credentials, Mario Monti
    24743 300x199 Rothschild’s Puppet Mario Monti, Italy’s New PM

    Rothschild’s Puppet Mario Monti


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Monti

    Monti is the first chairman of Bruegel, a European think tank founded in 2005, and he is European Chairman of the Trilateral Commission, a think tank founded in 1973 by David Rockefeller.[4] He is also a leading member of the Bilderberg Group.[5] Monti is an international adviser to Goldman Sachs and The Coca-Cola Company.[6]

    In Greece the new PM Lucas Papademos served on the Federal Reserve of Boston!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas_Papademos

    He has served as Senior Economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston in 1980. He joined the Bank of Greece in 1985 as Chief Economist, rising to Deputy Governor in 1993 and Governor in 1994. During his time as Governor of the national bank, Papademos was involved in Greece’s transition from the drachma to the euro as its national currency.[4] After leaving the Bank of Greece in 2002, Papademos became the Vice President to Jean-Claude Trichet at the European Central Bank from 2002 to 2010. In 2010 he left that position to serve as an advisor to Prime Minister George Papandreou.[4] He has been a member of the Trilateral Commission since 1998.[5]

    You can’t make this stuff up, the Banksters are now just out right stealing governments and will perpetuate debt slavery and socialize their losses.
    :-/
     
     

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    I am concerned about this as well, putting unelected people in charge of countries is not good democracy.

    Why are they not suing Goldman Sachs for the Greek problems. After all they were the company that produced the dodgy accounts to get them in the Euro.

    When the Greek PM said their was going to be a referendum (real democracy in action) he was kicked out by people who are not even Greek citizens. We all know about EU referendums they only hold them when they know they will win and if they fail just have another referendum till you get the result you want.

    Next financial markets get one of there own in to protect their money.

    Then Italy 2-0 to the financial markets.

    Who next Spain in a few weeks as they are having elections soon so there is no point putting a crony in for a few days.

    When will they wake up the system is broke chucking money at the problem is not a fix.

    Next spring we are going to see a lot of social unrest as the measures put in place take affect, I believe people around the world are waking up to what is going on. The majority are being fleeced by the minority. The ordinary hard working people are earning less (quite a few don't have jobs now) and the financial elite are still raking it in with big bounces and annual wage rises of 50%

    The whole system needs re-addressing, the average person on the street has very little spare cash after paying for accommodation, food and utility bills, how will we ever get out of this problem?

    The financial institutions who have bought bonds and sold loans to countries including ours who have been trading with outgoing greater than their combined revenues need to be held to account. Not the public who has pretty much no say apart from a vote every few years to parties controlled by the big corporations and institutions.

    The Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy show can only go on so long sticking plasters over cracks before the whole lot collapses. Time to fastens your seat belts pay as much finance off as you can and hold tight this is going to be one long scary ride.

     
     

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    Despite the public stance, our PM Cameron is at war with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

    So are Greece, Portugal, Italy, and Spain and so on.

    Merkel told the Greek admin, if you hold a referendum on your domestic austerity measures, not one cent will leave the Bundesbank? Likewise, Merkel offered the same carrot/stick ultimatum to the Italian admin, if they did not resign en bloc making way for the current unelected regime to grasp the reins of power?

    Of course, Germany does not have the same financial stranglehold over the UK as it has over the failing economies of many of its euro zone EU partners (second class status). So why has Cameron got a beef with the Germans? With the exception of the US, the UK is the biggest exporter of western democracy. Gonna be hard to sell now that the European spring has arrived.

    All the leaders of the EU member states need to realise that their ‘Smoke and mirrors’ skulduggery is no longer going to be tolerated by the citizens of Europe and the rest of the world.
     
     

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    Wasn’t very hard to predict it would all turn pear-shaped and I’m not going to say I told you so. The voters of Greece and France have certainly thrown a spanner in the works

    In the wake of the Greek and French election results, German Chancellor Merkel reckons the EU fiscal pact is not up for renegotiation.

    We shall see about that.


    If Cameron and his poodle Clegg continue with their austerity measures here, I predict that they will both end up on the political scrapheap along with Sarkozy.
     
     

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    It will be an interesting few weeks, I don't think Hollande will be a yes man to the financial institutions who caused this mess to begin with. He is obviously not a fan of austerity.
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJ_Biker
    It will be an interesting few weeks, I don't think Hollande will be a yes man to the financial institutions who caused this mess to begin with. He is obviously not a fan of austerity.
    He has a clear mandate because he stood on an anti-austerity ticket Taffy. Now that Merkel's bedfellow Sarkosy has bit the dust she is out on a bit of a limb.
     
     

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    What with this and the post about 9/11 its getting depressing looking on here.
     
     

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