If thats the dates then I will make it. I'm going on holiday in August for a couple of weeks (dont know which ones yet) and I have a birthday party in Lincolnshire on the weekend of the 3rd of Sept. If the rally does miss all of them I'm well up for it. I like the idea of the offroad stuff as I have always fancied a bit of that. If anyone that has had some off road experience fancys organising an event I'm sure you would get a good turnout from here.