Yeah ... but you'll be riding it for weeks before another fill up !!!!! ;D ;DOriginally Posted by BMWGraeme
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Yeah ... but you'll be riding it for weeks before another fill up !!!!! ;D ;DOriginally Posted by BMWGraeme
Hi, I run several trucks as part of my business, filled one truck to the brim today 850 litres @ £1.32.9 you do the maths.
Count the trucks on the wilts roads tomorrow goverment Kerrching!!! double Kerrrching !!!!!!!!
P.S Now you why everything is so expensive now as it has been transported by road at some point.
You need a different GS.... mine "only" costs £16 to fill.Originally Posted by BMWGraeme
Cant comment on the bike how much extra it costs to fill up as she has been of the road, but my volvo c70 i've owned for the last 10 months has gone from £72 to now £82 and that for 64 liters usually.
Originally Posted by t1pper
vote Hunar
If we want a change in politics, we need to vote for it, or make mass protests like egypt.
We saw a positive result with the first round of fuel protests years ago, the government backed down very quickly, and fuel went below £1 again. Not long after that it crept back up to over a £1, and the protests started again, on a smaller scale and as I recall nothing happened, simply because opposition wasn't strong enough.
We have this problem because of apathy, everyone complains about it, but leaves it up to someone else to do something about it, or doesn't join in when someone does for fear they might get attention put on them. Divide and conquer, the government like it that way, they can do what they want knowing that people will complain but will not actively stop them.
At the last election 45% of the population didn't vote, I know I didn't, because there was no one I felt I could vote for, I wonder how many of the 45% felt the same or just couldn't be bothered, 'oh it's just politics, I have no time or interest in politics', well if you don't like the fuel prices, or the cuts, or some of the laws, then you should have an interest in politics. If there is no one you feel you can vote for, then stand yourself.
If you say you don't care about politics, then you really have no say about whats happening now, what direction you feel the country should take, if you don't like it, do something about it, if you won't, then I don't see how you can complain.
In this very thread there is people saying 'what can I do?' have you written to your MP? their rivals? the government? have you got together with others to challenge it? have you even tried to do anything about it? All the stuff happening in egypt was apparently started by one person, so when you ask what can one person do, well there you go. Getting women the vote was started by one person getting others to rally, the most important changes START because of one person.
How many people here would join me in blocking a fuel depot on a nice sunny day? how many would look out of the window and see cold and rain and go back to bed? Oh I am sure I would get a lot of verbal support, but how different would the number of actual protesters be on a sunny day and on a cold wet day?
If you want I will organise a ride and blockade of a fuel depot, how many will join me? I expect a high turn out if everyone disagree's with 80p per litre tax on their fuel.
100% with you, count me in. Personally I don't think I'm articulate enough to organise this sort of thing, however the missus says I'm a thug, so I can supply the muscle . Let's do it.
Hunar - what't your proposal for where the lost revenue comes from?
The tax take goes on things like schools, hospitals, roads etc.
For his to be taken seiously there needs to be a properly costed proposal from where this money comes from.
As you know there are already massive cuts to public spending.
I am sure that the bankers would be a popular choice, but be aware that if the tax regime becomes too oppressive then the banks that put a lot of money into our economy will simply go elsewhere taking lots of business and personal tax income with them.
I'm not defending them by any stretch of the imagination but I am saying that I need to understand how this would be funded.
Originally Posted by noisy_lightning
Same here! Filled the gixxer yesterday, gutted at the price jump.
Lost revenue? how much revenue is wasted by government filling their pockets? or their associates pockets?
What's trident goign to cost us? I've seen figures that put it between 20 and 34 billion. Does anyone want it? I've not seen many people who want to go ahead with trident at all, let alone during a time of savage cuts.
As for the bankers, well the simple idea as I see it, is for the government to set up their own bank, it's obviously a very profitable business, and all the profits go back into the public purse and not into fat cat pockets, providing it's done properly (and for the record no I don't think any of the top 3 will do it properly).
The problem with the tax regime is that it allows people to offshore their business interests to avoid paying tax in this country, it also allows the richest peopel to offshore their money as well, so they don't have to pay tax. Change the law, and lower the business tax. Vodaphone got a way with not paying £6billion in tax's as the HMRC decided not to chase them for it as it would take to long as vodafone where dragging it out for as long as possible, so big business really just has to keep the argument going for long enough for the goverment to give up. By the same token all those people who now have a huge bill to pay due to a cock up AT HMRC will not be allowed to drag it out long enough for the goverment to stop chasing them and back down.
Business tax is very high in the UK, which is why so many companies offshore their business, I think we run at 20%, we lose alot of business to Ireland as they charge 12.5%, singapore charges 5%. If we lower the tax, we encourage business to set up here, and then bring all the rest of their money here as well, creating more jobs and more income for the population and as a result for government. Lord Green, who was put in charge of sorting out 'government wasted money' has avoided paying huge sums of TAX by living outside the UK, his wife also, they have avoided hundreds of millions of pounds of TAX on money they made out of this country, how about bringing these people to justice, or changing the rules so they can't avoid paying tax on money earnt from this country? the people David Cameron has put in charge of advising the government on UK business have offshored all or most (and have said they will offshore the rest) of their business interests to avoid paying tax, how about we sort that problem out rather than make the british tax payer fund their lavish lifestyles?
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