I think we should start naming and shaming

[wiltshire builders]

And its not just the ones pulling out. I had a guy run into the back of me last September then I stopped in the road to let a car out :-X That was the end of that bike.

I don't ever let anyone out when riding. Too much risk of confusion. Also I don't want people expecting a bike to let them out, seeing the headlight on and thinking you've flashed them out. Had that happen before. Don't do it.

[Mark_Able]

If you think they haven't seen you, SOUND YOUR HORN before it's too late. It's there as a warning, and will save your skin. Don't be embarressed. It's saved me more times than I care to remember... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[Nooj]

Is it time for a 'loud pipes save lives' debate??

[newnut]

Is it time for a 'loud pipes save lives' debate??

thats something i definately agree with. i might cut mine down......more. lol

[Ducatista]

I had a guy run into the back of me last September when I stopped in the road to let a car out

My rule of thumb, is only be courteous if it doesn't put you at risk.

The right hand turning into my close at home is narrow (well a squeeze for a car plus bike).
When I take the right turn I now pull over to left to block cars from undertaking on my left.
They are quite happy to drive within 3 inches of my left leg as they are in a metal box, but I'm not happy with it so I make them wait a few seconds.

Safety comes before courtesy in my book.

[rich1988]

sometimes you dont even see them...(3 weeks in a hospital, 5 broken bones, 3 puncture wounds, 6 operations (7th pending) and 6 pints of blood, and learning to walk on a dodgy leg again)....

my angel was with me that day, but theres no guarantees......

take care peeps, but dont let it spoil your biking... :-)

you still ride?

[redken1]

[quote=Ducatista]

I had a guy run into the back of me last September when I stopped in the road to let a car out

My rule of thumb, is only be courteous if it doesn't put you at risk.

The right hand turning into my close at home is narrow (well a squeeze for a car plus bike).
When I take the right turn I now pull over to left to block cars from undertaking on my left.
They are quite happy to drive within 3 inches of my left leg as they are in a metal box, but I'm not happy with it so I make them wait a few seconds.

I agree with your rule of thumb - If I am stationary and a car has been waiting to exit a side road onto a busy main drag I will always allow the driver time to join the traffic flow. I know how frustrating it can be to wait for ages to exit a side road during rush hour. It’s all about striking a balance between riding safely and being courteous to other road users. I am of the opinion that roundabouts would work much more efficiently if vehicles did not enter and negotiate them in the same way as they would a chicane on a racetrack.

[spook]

Treat them like thier all out to get you and you cant go far wrong, that what my dad told me a long, long ,long time ago.
And he was a Policeman ;D

[Loops]

I've started calling it my 'Bikers Complex'

A typical example being:

"They haven't seen me, they haven't seen me, move out a bit, they've still not seen me, they're going to try and kill me, they're going to try and kill me, hellooooo I'm here, why aren't you looking at me, better move out a bit further, ready to brake............oh, they did see me" ;D

[Squashed_Fly]

If you ride everywhere like that Loops, short of something really stupid happening like someone running a red light etc, then you should be around for many years of happy riding!