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ollie
06-11-09, 11:46 AM
does anyone know of any trail bikes that are decent but are cheap(ish) and are up to 125 water cooled 2t, 200 air cooled 2t and 250 four stroke?? doesent matter about the year within reason.

alanTDM
06-11-09, 07:52 PM
There are a few about
2T theres the Yamaha DT 125,s all years.4T yammys are the Serrow,and TTR250 and older XT 250's
Kawasaki KMX 125's 1988-2001 spares are plenty full on these.
KMX 200 2T rarer than the KMX 125 but with more torque and most parts from a KMX 125 will fit.4T are KLX models
2T Suzuki PE 125's 175 etc 4T DR 125 and 200
4T Honda XL 125,185,200,250 twin shock good torque on engine.
4T Honda XR 125,200 250 are the Enduro versions.
most cheapish trail bikes are from about 1985 onwards some spares are easier to get than others aswell.
The Honda XL camshafts ran in the heads and not in bearings so were liable to wear the cylinder head if oil changes were not kept to schedule.
My Xl 185 in N.Spain
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l139/aytdm/var080.gif

ollie
07-11-09, 03:10 PM
cheers alan will look into those a bit more. nice pic bet that was some nice riding out there as well

jonnydangerous
09-11-09, 03:15 PM
how experienced off road are you? how tall?
there are shorter bikes like the serow, and Gas Gas Pampera, and there are full on Enduro bikes.

what kind of budget, and how serious do you want to be.??.....
fun can be had on a budget, i once did a whole winter on a DT125lc, that cost me 80 (altho i did a fair bit of work on it), but now run a WRF250...

one last hint, dont buy a 4 stroke that smokes, and dont buy a 2 stroke if it doesnt!!! :-)

if i had to pick a cheapish bike for a newbie, id recommend a KMX125, the DT has better suspension but a PANTS engine, and wont be as cheap as a KMX year for year.......remove the washer from an inch inside the front pipe on the KMX and youll have a good little lightweight winter green laner.

shame im "Physically unable to ride offroad" at the mo, as i could have shown you salisbury plain! if youve got a bike in about three months from now, give me a shout......

cheers.

Scotty
09-11-09, 03:31 PM
Or there might be a very tidy KL250 Super Sherpa (as seen recently in the Pyrenees...) up for sale soon - as low as a Serow, very similar really... :)

http://www.wiltshirebikers.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1257380946/10#10

ollie
09-11-09, 04:30 PM
jaydee: have a bit of off road experiance and 6ft tall. price is up to 800 maybe a1000. will be using it for is to stay bike fit over winter befor i start racing in april again.

scotty: bike is lovley mate and there might a phone call soon depends if something comes up.

cheers guys

Scotty
09-11-09, 05:08 PM
If you're 6ft tall you needn't worry about a low seat height, pretty much any dirt bike would do...

Ryan
09-11-09, 05:45 PM
my only experiance of trails bikes is one i had when i was a youngen ;) little TY175

ollie
09-11-09, 09:36 PM
size dont matter really. my only off road expience is on a ty 80 and a few other trials bike and a little enduro.

jonnydangerous
10-11-09, 01:59 PM
for that money youre gonna get a pretty ropey 4 stroker, but would find a pretty good 2 stroker with a bit of searching......
try CRM250 on eeeebay, they hold there money but are good kit, and pretty easy to work on, think ive got a workshop manual somewhere from the last engine build i did on a mark 2.
theres a suzuki RMX on eeeebay at the mo for 995, good bikes, bit heavy tho, and some had powervalve problems, dont buy it if it rattles.....
try looking for a honda xr250 you may find something for that kinda money, theyre good and reliable, dont buy one if it ticks, as it has a very complex valve train, which is expensive to replace, good bikes tho.

dont buy a converted motocross bike, it will be PANTS to ride, and unreliable, dont be tempted by a cheap one.......

another thing if youre worried about it is complete legality, there are some models that are listed on the logbook as Enduro Use Only and not PLG/Motorcycle......these models havent had an SVA (single vehihcle Approval"test and wont stand up in court........

reckon youll have good fun on an 800-1000 bike, theres some good ones out there, happy hunting :-)

P.s. im doing my leg exercises like a good boy and will be back on the WR soon, and will arrange a trip round salisbury plain for all those interested. :-)

ollie
10-11-09, 03:23 PM
i know 2stokes very well its the 4strokes that confuse me. wheight dont matter really either as long as its mechanicly sound, realible and easy to find parts for then its alright. they are all good bikes youve picked out but i preferably want a 2stroke more fun and i thats all i know and ridden. cheers again guys

jonnydangerous
10-11-09, 04:51 PM
parts wise youll be ok with a CRM250.
there are companies that specialise in parts for them, and they really are good.
ive owned one, and had no probs at all....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-CRM-250-CRM250-enduro-trail-bike_W0QQitemZ360198338088QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mo torcycles?hash=item53dd7e7628

altho the one id buy is:-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-CRM-250-MK-2-NOT-XR-DRZ-OR-KTM_W0QQitemZ270482747802QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mot orcycles?hash=item3efa07319a

good luck!.

ollie
10-11-09, 05:06 PM
they're both nice bikes. will keep looking but i might have to look about first. cheers again

schwee
10-11-09, 05:19 PM
I've just advertised my KTM 4 stroke 250 in the for sale section here:

http://www.wiltshirebikers.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1257873258/0#0